The Conservative Party

[Kompany Car]

the weird Tory world reflected by the Spectator....... presume skewed by the use of Head of Household as most 16-24 year olds live at home with parents so in fact that is not their income despite being presented as such

Yep, plus it’s that wonderful word average which is very different from the much more useful median value that’s not skewed by very wealth individuals.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

I want to take money off anyone that can afford it and that includes lots of older people.

"Pensioner poverty" plummeted under Labour 1997-2010 but it's creeping up again under the Tories.

As a 72 year old with their own house I agree with you. When I started putting money away I a pension pot many, many years ago my financial advisor at the time said that if you have your own money then you decide where you spend the last few years of your life but if you don’t someone else does and it is not always going to be somewhere you would like to be.

A lot of people will not agree with that and will just spend all the money they get coming in on holidays every year and relatively expensive cars etc. Spend it while you’ve got it because you can’t take it with you. As I get older I have stopped saving for a ‘rainy’ day.

 

[metalblue]

I want to take money off anyone that can afford it and that includes lots of older people.

"Pensioner poverty" plummeted under Labour 1997-2010 but it's creeping up again under the Tories.

So you think the current system of funding social care for the elderly is fair?

 

[Vic]

So you think the current system of funding social care for the elderly is fair?

Non-sequitur of the year?

 

[metalblue]

Non-sequitur of the year?

Just trying to understand your thought process of how we pay for care of the elderly. So far I’ve got it as:

Keep existing system of “selling” assets leaving the estate with £23,250
Raise VAT to cover the shortfall.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Just trying to understand your thought process of how we pay for care of the elderly. So far I’ve got it as:

Keep existing system of “selling” assets leaving the estate with £23,250
Raise VAT to cover the shortfall.

You have to pay towards care if your estate is £23,250.
It only becomes free when the estate is down to circa £14,000

 

[Blue Maverick]

You have to pay towards care if your estate is £23,250.
It only becomes free when the estate is down to circa £14,000

So basically if you own a house you are selling it, so no fucking change then!

 

[denislawsbackheel]

So Johnson’s solution basically means all ordinary people will have to sell their homes still.
Or do we all have access to £86000 on top of property?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

So basically if you own a house you are selling it, so no fucking change then!

That’s the current arrangement.
Johnson’s announcement actually makes virtually bugger all difference to ordinary people.
His rich mates though have their country piles ring fenced..

 

[Blue Maverick]

Am I reading this right, we are now going to tax pensioners as well? Is this from state pension or private pension? You know what I’ll tell my kid to save fuck all for her future now, she can have what I leave her and blow the fucking lot as she will have to work until she dies anyway.