bluethrunthru
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They do that now, they do not do that now - explain
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They do that now, they do not do that now - explain
bluethrunthru
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Absolutely we are all hypocrites it’s why the only option I can think of is finding the best way to use peoples materialism/greed for the betterment of society. I prefer a complete overhaul of society but it ain’t happenening. Society doesn’t get a say anymore anyhow. Parties have a demographic they need to pander to. If you fight for fairness you end up somewhat in the wilderness.
The odd thing is both parties don't want to do the slightest thing that affects the to percentile in any way. Both could exploit Brexit on this in that those people can not just flit abroad because ironically something the probably voted for makes that harder - I can see why the Tories want none of that mentioned but why that is for Labour is beyond me
The Future’s Blue!
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I don’t understand. Johnson told us that leaving the EU will leave us with £350 million a week for the NHS yet we will now see tax rises?
If it was that difficult in the 70s (saving £300 for a deposit on a terrace house in Manchester, maybe 20 times weekly pay) we wouldn't have had the rise in home ownership that means many over-70s are already enjoying the inheritance from their parents. Tax the rich, however old they are.Yes I’m sure 44years for men 39years for women, anyone over the age of 71yrs may have left school at 15yrs, paid 16 percent interest rate on there first home, during 1970 while wages were low if that wasn’t bad enough the money pinching MP’s want to make them pay again.
Most people on here are young I think but now opportunities are a lot less. That’s what has changed the divide between rich and poor is even greater than it was before, someone earlier said spend your money and enjoy it
Fred_Quimby
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How on earth do you make that? "Many over-70's enjoying the inheritance from their parents,'?? Many, many people my age (72) didn't get any inheritance and hence had to save for many years for a deposit AND mortgages were rationed in the early 70's making it doubly difficult to buy a house. Then we had to go through a period of eye watering interest rates (well into double figures) which made making ends meet very difficult indeed. Of course most people on here will not know this because they are to young.If it was that difficult in the 70s (saving £300 for a deposit on a terrace house in Manchester, maybe 20 times weekly pay) we wouldn't have had the rise in home ownership that means many over-70s are already enjoying the inheritance from their parents. Tax the rich, however old they are.
It would appear that a lot of young people thought we oldies had it easy. Inflation through the roof, strikes every week, record unemployment and don't get me started on the state of housing and education.
Len Rum
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Yeah I don't understand that.I don’t understand. Johnson told us that leaving the EU will leave us with £350 million a week for the NHS yet we will now see tax rises?
I'm sure all will become clear in the next few days.
Fred_Quimby
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Let us realise that this health care issue is to save richer people paying for their health care. Hence the talk of a cap of £80k. Poor people don't pay.
Gosh, four Yorkshiremen territory...How on earth do you make that? "Many over-70's enjoying the inheritance from their parents,'?? Many, many people my age (72) didn't get any inheritance and hence had to save for many years for a deposit AND mortgages were rationed in the early 70's making it doubly difficult to buy a house. Then we had to go through a period of eye watering interest rates (well into double figures) which made making ends meet very difficult indeed. Of course most people on here will not know this because they are to young.
It would appear that a lot of young people thought we oldies had it easy. Inflation through the roof, strikes every week, record unemployment and don't get me started on the state of housing and education.
If you had to save for years for a deposit on a house you must have been either very badly paid, wanted something more than a 2-up 2-down terrace, or not been very good at saving.
1970:
Average yearly wage: £1,204
Average house price: £4,690
The average house cost 3.89 x the average yearly salary.
2019:
Average yearly wage: £26,208
Average house price: £234,853
The average house costs 8.96 x the average yearly salary.
bluethrunthru
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or alternatively opened a new hospital , invested in mental health care and built a new school