The Conservative Party

Mike D said:
In a nutshell Johnson is on his way because its gonna take 3 years and another leader to distance themselves from the shit he has left. There is not a cat in hells chance of them rocking up to the next election with all the bad smell of Johnson around.
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Agree.
But there are a lot of Tory sheep out there.
Question is will the Tory party risk keeping BoJo as leader?
 
metalblue said:
I don’t disagree that the Tories are the worst in our current episode of “MPs behaving badly” but being worst doesn’t solve the problem which has occurred again and again over the years across both our main parties. Maybe the solution isn’t more HoC rules but rather rules instilled in the parties code of conduct, it’s controllable, it doesn’t require public inquiries or whatever and can be done pretty quickly. I’m sure many MPs would prefer the procrastination of an inquiry however.

The “let’s not split hairs about this” article was an interesting read. Other than the 5 MPs (Tory) who were accused of trying to influence the judicial system (surely a matter for the courts to hand down punishment?) the others were largely *cough cough* “admin errors”. I read them all (again all tories) and thought it smacked of pretending the system catches every infraction whereas it clearly doesn’t. I guess they think we make the laws we don’t abide by them.
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They always have been and always will be.

www.pnas.org

Higher social class predicts increased unethical behavior

Seven studies using experimental and naturalistic methods reveal that upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals. In studies 1 and 2, upper-class individuals were more likely to break the law while driving, relative to lower-class individuals. In follow-up...
www.pnas.org www.pnas.org

Powerful people are the most likely to break the rules – even if they make them | City, University of London

Professor André Spicer writes for The Conversation about the behaviour of rulemakers when it comes to obeying their own laws.
www.city.ac.uk www.city.ac.uk
 
lloydie said:
They always have been and always will be.

www.pnas.org

Higher social class predicts increased unethical behavior

Seven studies using experimental and naturalistic methods reveal that upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals. In studies 1 and 2, upper-class individuals were more likely to break the law while driving, relative to lower-class individuals. In follow-up...
www.pnas.org www.pnas.org

Powerful people are the most likely to break the rules – even if they make them | City, University of London

Professor André Spicer writes for The Conversation about the behaviour of rulemakers when it comes to obeying their own laws.
www.city.ac.uk www.city.ac.uk
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Thanks Lloydie I’ll have a read of them. I did read the other day that 25% of the population is traditional working class but 55% identify with working class values. Maybe there is hope for us yet.
 
There’s no previous government, conservatives or Labour, that are remotely comparable to the current incumbents. You only need to look back at what used to happen when there was even a small breach of the ministerial code compared to what’s being allowed to happen now, let alone their treatment of parliament and it’s rules.
 
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