The Conservative Party

[mat]

 

[west didsblue]

Lindsay hoyle is a waste of time. Another with his nose in the trough. Does nothing to stop our politicians being outrageous, does nothing when PMs tell lies in Parliament.

And he'll do nothing about the bullying tactics around the fracking vote. Democracy is damaged with him there.

People used to slag off Bercow for being anti-government even though he came from tory ranks but he wouldn't have stood for this shit show, and has been proven to have been correct in the way he conducted the Commons during his tenure. Hoyle is useless.

 

[mosssideblue]

The Tories are fucked and they know it. Trying to manipulate internally to try and drag things out to the next GE just shows they have total disregard for the voting public
Putting the country first my arse

 

[Vic]

Last night on the UK Parliament site it recorded her as a did not vote!! Very strange.

Apparently there's some "electronic" process that didn't record her, but she voted in person. Of course, it could have been a wet lettuce that went through the lobby.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think your analogy is absolutely reasonable but the one who should bear most guilt for it, I would suggest, is Osborne not Cameron. 5 years of choice driven austerity, living standards dropping for the first time ever, life expectancy reducing for the first time since recording began, public services denuded year on year, backlogs building up every month in hospitals, courts, asylum claims. Libraries and local authority services slashed, doctor and nurse places capped leading to an over reliance on overseas healthcare professionals and desperate levels of pay for people in the caring professionals.

Leaves job was almost already done for them. Telling people, who frankly couldn’t believe they could possibly be worse off they’d be ‘worse off’ really didn‘t stack up, hence the ‘red wall’.

Finally, the biggest bit that leave got and remain didn’t, was that most people actually don’t put a lot of thought into voting and are much more influenced by emotion. The idea that people carefully thought about the pros and cons of leaving the EU is for the birds and the leave cast knew that, lied about almost everything to and thus played on that and, ultimately, triumphed because of that.

Difficult to argue with any of that, mate.

 

[mat]

People used to slag off Bercow for being anti-government even though he came from tory ranks but he wouldn't have stood for this shit show, and has been proven to have been correct in the way he conducted the Commons during his tenure. Hoyle is useless.

Hoyle doesn't want his peerage taking away when he stands down at the next election. (I suspect he will)

 

[Don Karleone]

Could this be it?

 

[west didsblue]

Difficult to argue with any of that, mate.

Other than whilst Osborne came up with the plan, Cameron was his boss and the buck stops with him.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Could this be it?

Are they sure it was Brady and not a horse?

 

[mackenzie]

Could this be it?

And apparently some scheduled meetings today have been cancelled