One of the things to remember today, as a lot of people bring up "Austerity 2.0" is that we never left Austerity 1. Public spending never returned to the levels it was pre-2010, let alone catch up to where it should be by now.
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Bodicoteblue
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No….but the people in charge of truss are still in charge, and they’re not going to be big fans of today‘s statement.Truss was never in charge
bluethrunthru
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He actually said we were suffering the most because of the lack of access to a broad labour market which I took to mean Brexit.
then why not use the worf?
then why not use the worf?
Sometimes it's best just to let everyone with a brain draw the right conclusion without saying the word that brings the howler monkeys into the debate.
If he says Brexit then people stop talking about what he's saying and just go mad about the fact the governor of the BOE something bad about brexit.
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What a horrible last 3 years it's been
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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One of the things to remember today, as a lot of people bring up "Austerity 2.0" is that we never left Austerity 1. Public spending never returned to the levels it was pre-2010, let alone catch up to where it should be by now.
They’ve never really got growth going since the Conservatives came to power. Gdp has been dropping since 2014, they can’t be trusted to kickstart things when the mill stone of brexit is crippling the country.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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I think bringing Star Trek characters into it might give the government even more distraction ideas!then why not use the worf?
MillionMilesAway
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It’s certainly a cynical ploy but it would mean that whoever took over in 2024-25 would not be starting with a clean slate and would be spending the first 2-3 years still cleaning up the Conservative’s mess. Could be wrong, of course, but we’ll find out more later today.
I think that's a certainty regardless of what they do.
I don't see any fix that doesn't involve tax rises and slow progress on the actual fixing, and that will just help the Conservatives the next time around. I think Labour in power need to compile the accurate figures on spending and cuts, and every report that's been suppressed, and bang on about them and how much lying was being done. Just finding a way to make it register is the tough bit.
MillionMilesAway
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I think bringing Star Trek characters into it might give the government even more distraction ideas!
I was thinking it was some suggestion about how to kling on to power.
The arguments on here around austerity are a little hypocritical and illogical.
This is a genuine question - if we do not impose austerity and instead increase spending then what will happen to the markets and the £? We could fill the black hole with taxes but why would the markets react positively to increases in tax that would inevitably fall on the markets?
The pain coming is unfortunately inevitable because it's the long price we must all pay for COVID and not even a Labour government would be able to escape it.
This is a genuine question - if we do not impose austerity and instead increase spending then what will happen to the markets and the £? We could fill the black hole with taxes but why would the markets react positively to increases in tax that would inevitably fall on the markets?
The pain coming is unfortunately inevitable because it's the long price we must all pay for COVID and not even a Labour government would be able to escape it.