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But her and Cameron were instrumental in creating the mess we see now. Just because her successor were way worse should not give her any sort of pass but instead an even more stern indictment to her poor leadership. This type of willful ignorance is why it’s so hard to hold these people accountable.
She tried to square the wrong and couldn’t. I’m no fan of hers, but she did things she believed were good for the country, something the 2019 intake haven’t.
 
There are far worse out there than May. She was the last statesperson PM.

She was nowhere near perfect, but she had a sense of decorum, at least.
She wasn't great and I wouldn't have voted for her but if she'd had a decent majority to work with and wasn't hamstrung by the ERG, we'd be in a better place and we might not have had to suffer from Johnsom Truss and Sunak.
 
She wasn't great and I wouldn't have voted for her but if she'd had a decent majority to work with and wasn't hamstrung by the ERG, we'd be in a better place and we might not have had to suffer from Johnsom Truss and Sunak.
Think that was my point, expressed more clearly!
 
She tried to square the wrong and couldn’t. I’m no fan of hers, but she did things she believed were good for the country, something the 2019 intake haven’t.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I see it too with America with how old Republicans like Bush are given a makeover. These people are not and were never good people. Maybe decent Tories but that is still a very low bar.
 
But her and Cameron were instrumental in creating the mess we see now. Just because her successor were way worse should not give her any sort of pass but instead an even more stern indictment to her poor leadership. This type of willful ignorance is why it’s so hard to hold these people accountable.
Bang on. Never mind Windrush and a horrific voting record at least she had some decorum. Liberals care more about tone than anything else.
 
Bang on. Never mind Windrush and a horrific voting record at least she had some decorum. Liberals care more about tone than anything else.

I agree. You can’t complain that politicians are unaccountable charlatans then when it comes time to hold ALL politicians accountable you put on your rosy tinted glasses. This is why characters like Johnson,Truss, and soon Sunak have no shame cause liberals put decorum over accountability.

I don’t care if a person appears to be a nice guy/gal or “they seem decent”. No one deserves a free pass.
 

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