The Conservative Party

[hilts]

Yeah, with UKIP and the DUP.

I'm wondering how you can work out the percentages of the last election or the one before for that matter under a system that doesn't exist.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I'm wondering how you can work out the percentages of the last election or the one before for that matter under a system that doesn't exist.

If we had PR this lot wouldn't have even got in, that's the biggest selling point you could ever get.

We can all make predictions.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I'm wondering how you can work out the percentages of the last election or the one before for that matter under a system that doesn't exist.

Good point.

He's wrong anyway. A Tory led coalition government wouldn't have been able to command an absolute majority even with the deals.

How the 2019 election results could have looked with proportional representation

Ever wondered how the 2019 General Election result would have come out with a form of proportional representation?The Single Transferable Vote (STV) is a form of proportional representa

www.electoral-reform.org.uk

 

[BrianW]

People would vote differently under PR so it's impossible to predict.
I'm just one example - no way would I vote Labour if we had PR.

 

[bluenova]

Good point.

He's wrong anyway. A Tory led coalition government wouldn't have been able to command an absolute majority even with the deals.

How the 2019 election results could have looked with proportional representation

Ever wondered how the 2019 General Election result would have come out with a form of proportional representation?The Single Transferable Vote (STV) is a form of proportional representa

www.electoral-reform.org.uk

Wouldn't most keen proponents of PR say that STV is a very, very weak form of PR?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Wouldn't most keen proponents of PR say that STV is a very, very weak form of PR?

It’s all guesswork as the vote would be different, whichever system was used.

 

[bluenova]

I'm wondering how you can work out the percentages of the last election or the one before for that matter under a system that doesn't exist.

I agree that we really don't know.

I would argue that the old "truth" that PR would always lock out the Tories, was blown away in 2010 by the Lib Dems.

There have also been plenty of elections recently, where the "progressive alliance", even including the Lib Dems didn't significantly outvote the more reactionary/right wing parties, so I don't buy the argument that PR would have kept out the Tories.

 

[bluenova]

It’s all guesswork as the vote would be different, whichever system was used.

True - and one of the more reassuring polls I've seen recently, suggested that whereas Brexit voters wanted a Tory govt, Reform voters definitely don't. Making a Labour govt more likely.

 

[hilts]

We can all make predictions.

Mine was based on the fact that the Tories would never get near a majority on their own in 2017 and their only likely partners ukip/dup got Jack shit votes.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Mine was based on the fact that the Tories would never get near a majority on their own in 2017 and their only likely partners ukip/dup got Jack shit votes.

Ah, I was going on about 2019, but either way, as people would have voted differently, hung parliaments that couldn’t get anything through would be the likely result of both elections.