The Conservative Party

[mackenzie]

They are the answer in that they are the only credible alternative that is capable of forming a running a majority government thanks to our archaic voting system but change? Real change that we feel in our lives?

Forget it.

To be honest, I feel like I'm more naturally a Lib Dem voter. And I think a lot of voters might be similar.

 

[mexico1970]

To be honest, I feel like I'm more naturally a Lib Dem voter. And I think a lot of voters might be similar.

Get rid of the word liberal and they'd get way more votes. most people associate liberals nowadays with people sporting multicoloured hair gluing their faces to something they disagree with.

 

[mackenzie]

Get rid of the word liberal and they'd get way more votes. most people associate liberals nowadays with people sporting multicoloured hair gluing their faces to something they disagree with.

I'm old enough to remember the whole Jeremy Thorpe debacle and just remember them as Liberals to be honest. Simpler times I guess. ;-)

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Jeremy Thorpe, Cyril Smith, Pants-down Paddy…

Not a party for me.

 

[metalblue]

https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/national-debt-since-1945-markings.jpg

National debt down, without austerity (other than some postwar shortages and rationing). Council houses built and new towns. Railways revived after being run down in the war. Free health care, and infectious diseases greatly reduced.

Now compare all that to other European countries and come back to me….

…or don’t as we’re getting way off topic going down this particularly rabbit hole

 

[carlosthejackal]

 

[Brewster's millions]

https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/national-debt-since-1945-markings.jpg

National debt down, without austerity (other than some postwar shortages and rationing). Council houses built and new towns. Railways revived after being run down in the war. Free health care, and infectious diseases greatly reduced.

Interesting little fantasy you’re peddling there about the lack of austerity under that Labour government.

They had a deficit of over 6% of GDP in 1946 and turned it into a surplus of 4% in 1951, with the tax burden rising sharply as well.

Public investment did rise, but it’s an lot easier to do that when health care expenditure is running at 3% of GDP versus 7%-plus currently and social security was half of what we’re spending now as well.

Do you advocate reducing welfare and health spending by 60% so that we can revive the railways again?

 

[kaz7]

Some major denial going on in this thread , you are toast tory lovers

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Now compare all that to other European countries and come back to me….

…or don’t as we’re getting way off topic going down this particularly rabbit hole

Think you'll find that the UK used loans from the USA to pay down debt (probably a mistake) whilst the rest of the countries used it to rebuild their infrastructure

 

[Vic]

Interesting little fantasy you’re peddling there about the lack of austerity under that Labour government.

They had a deficit of over 6% of GDP in 1946 and turned it into a surplus of 4% in 1951, with the tax burden rising sharply as well.

Public investment did rise, but it’s an lot easier to do that when health care expenditure is running at 3% of GDP versus 7%-plus currently and social security was half of what we’re spending now as well.

Do you advocate reducing welfare and health spending by 60% so that we can revive the railways again?

Bizarre. "Fantasy" about lack of austerity - while public expenditure was rising. Tory austerity policy since 2010 has been about cutting public expenditure - and if it has failed to cut public expenditure, that's a failure of the policy.

The tax burden fell from 1948 to 1951. Congratulations to the Tories on finally getting the postwar tax burden above the level Labour got it down to in 1951.