The Conservative Party

[BrianW]

Move to the other end of the country (away from your family) and live in a decrepit caravan for six weeks doing temporary farm work. Look forward to the fun of coming home and waiting weeks for your benefits to be restarted. (With the bonus that we may find a reason to say 'no'.)

 

[mexico1970]

Move to the other end of the country (away from your family) and live in a decrepit caravan for six weeks doing temporary farm work. Look forward to the fun of coming home and waiting weeks for your benefits to be restarted. (With the bonus that we may find a reason to say 'no'.)

We need to either pay more for our fruit, or bring in loads of people who will live in decrepit caravans and unsanitary conditions.

It's a tough choice.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

We need to either pay more for our fruit, or bring in loads of people who will live in decrepit caravans and unsanitary conditions.

It's a tough choice.

Or sections of fruit agriculture industry will just decline and then cease to exist. We'll import more fruits and stop eating strawberries all year round.

There's a ceiling that people will pay for fresh fruit and everything else is already going up.

I thought Brexit was meant to make food cheaper?

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Or sections of fruit agriculture industry will just decline and then cease to exist. We'll import more fruits and stop eating strawberries all year round.

There's a ceiling that people will pay for fresh fruit and everything else is already going up.

I thought Brexit was meant to make food cheaper?

And with the new import restrictions on all the fruit and veg coming in from the EU non of it will be fresh and it will cost more. The benefits of Brexit just keep on mounting.

 

[BrianW]

We need to either pay more for our fruit, or bring in loads of people who will live in decrepit caravans and unsanitary conditions.

It's a tough choice.

We also need to choose to be more flexible with benefits, so people who choose to take up temporary employment get straight back on them when it ends with no bureaucratic bullshit.

And we need to restructure society completely so that farm labourers can afford to live in farm labourers' cottages in villages again, as opposed to stockbrokers and retired academics who contribute nothing to a functioning local economy. And let's not get started on second/third/fourth homes and Air BNB.

 

[mexico1970]

We also need to choose to be more flexible with benefits, so people who choose to take up temporary employment get straight back on them when it ends with no bureaucratic bullshit.

And we need to restructure society completely so that farm labourers can afford to live in farm labourers' cottages in villages again, as opposed to stockbrokers and retired academics who contribute nothing to a functioning local economy. And let's not get started on second/third/fourth homes and Air BNB.

Every single bit of that I agree with mate.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

We also need to choose to be more flexible with benefits, so people who choose to take up temporary employment get straight back on them when it ends with no bureaucratic bullshit.

And we need to restructure society completely so that farm labourers can afford to live in farm labourers' cottages in villages again, as opposed to stockbrokers and retired academics who contribute nothing to a functioning local economy. And let's not get started on second/third/fourth homes and Air BNB.

Not to mention the £200 it’d take for a worker to get the train down to Kent.

 

[BrianW]

Not to mention the £200 it’d take for a worker to get the train down to Kent.

If we were serious about this (which we, as a society, are not) the DWP would issue travel warrants. It really is that simple.

But all this will be costly and people don't want to pay more tax. They want to pay the least possible amount and for everything to work by magic. It isn't practicable.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

If we were serious about this (which we, as a society, are not) the DWP would issue travel warrants. It really is that simple.

But all this will be costly and people don't want to pay more tax. They want to pay the least possible amount and for everything to work by magic. It isn't practicable.

People don’t have the money to pay more tax though. It’s a cyclic argument.

Pay more tax, U.K. workers get paid better to pick fruit, cost of fruit goes up in supermarket, people can’t afford to pay the price of fruit because it’s gone on tax.

Until capitalism grows a conscience, it’ll always be a race to the bottom.

Then there’s the paradox of the people not wanting immigration also not wanting to give handouts for free, which the free travel pass would be deemed.

 

[threespires]

I don't term these jobs menial, the people who want their coffee served or their backsides wiped on the cheap decide that.

Probably right about the coffee but my experience of people that require assistance with personal care is that they are actually very grateful for the people who look after them and pretty appalled by how little they earn.