The Conservative Party

[meltonblue]

Agree. It seems like there is minimal interest Nd those that are interest are all clamouring t shut on the tories. The shit coming anthem from both left and right. They only downside is the threat that reform win a material number of seats.

I'd love to see the tories implode and get double digit seats. But on balance there does come a point where I want tories to beat remain. I'm nit losing sleep on it but reform and thise types of arseholes are a real threat.

They’ll never have enough votes to be anything but a small party in parliament though, if at all.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

They’ll never have enough votes to be anything but a small party in parliament though, if at all.

But I don't want them to have any. Tice is a traitor. He doesn't deserve a seat.

 

[117 M34]

Farage is doing a speech tomorrow.
Apparently this is the immigration election.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Farage is doing a speech tomorrow.
Apparently this is the immigration election.

He‘s just randomly challenged Sunak to a TV debate on immigration.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

He‘s just randomly challenged Sunak to a TV debate on immigration.

Honestly, that could be quite big.

Farage is just about the only thing that could split the vote on the right even further.

If Reform get 15% of people to vote for them, then we're not just talking 1997 for the Tories. We could be talking H. H. Asquith 1918 Liberal Party.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Honestly, that could be quite big.

Farage is just about the only thing that could split the vote on the right even further.

If Reform get 15% of people to vote for them, then we're not just talking 1997 for the Tories. We could be talking H. H. Asquith 1908 Liberal Party.

Only if Sunak is mad enough to accept or even acknowledge Farage.

He’s not standing.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Only if Sunak is mad enough to accept or even acknowledge Farage.

He’s not standing.

I'm not so sure it matters. Sunak 100% won't accept the offer, but this is the first indication we've had that Farage is going to be active in the campaign and not just leave Tice to be the front-man.

If Farage is determined to be a thorn in the side of Sunak, then he can do damage whether he's on a stage with him or not. Loathe him as I do, he's a much bigger pull at the ballot box than Tice.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I'm not so sure it matters. Sunak 100% won't accept the offer, but this is the first indication we've had that Farage is going to be active in the campaign and not just leave Tice to be the front-man.

If Farage is determined to be a thorn in the side of Sunak, then he can do damage whether he's on a stage with him or not. Loathe him as I do, he's a much bigger pull at the ballot box than Tice.

True, but all it will do is split that share of the vote and probably minimise their number of seats to its lowest possible.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

True, but all it will do is split that share of the vote and probably minimise their number of seats to its lowest possible.

Precisely, all of these polls that predict a complete collapse of the Tory vote necessarily have Reform getting between 11-15%. My opinion is that the slaughter might not be quite so severe, because smaller parties tend to be overrepresented in polling so it wouldn't surprise me if Reform only managed about 8%.

So anything that can actually crystallise that higher vote share into reality would be much welcomed. It could be the difference between "bad", and "Lib Dems are now the opposition". We can dream...

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Precisely, all of these polls that predict a complete collapse of the Tory vote necessarily have Reform getting between 11-15%. My opinion is that the slaughter might not be quite so severe, because smaller parties tend to be overrepresented in polling so it wouldn't surprise me if Reform only managed about 8%.

So anything that can actually crystallise that higher vote share into reality would be much welcomed. It could be the difference between "bad", and "Lib Dems are now the opposition". We can dream...

It may come to pass. Maybe this is Farage trying to obliterate the Tories, before offering to become their leader for the next election.

Farage does things for himself only.