The Conservative Party

[Ancient Citizen]

He snorted some gear twenty years ago and that precludes him from co-ordinating drug strategy? Seriously?

It's a rocky path we'd be taking for sure.

 

[blueinsa]

Politics has become a very dirty game and the gloves are now well and truly off.

What would have been seen as no go just a few years ago from political opponents is not only on the table now, its sought after and exposed in what has become a win at all costs game.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

It's a rocky path we'd be taking for sure.

When it comes to drugs and the crime and societal problems it all causes he would paying nothing more than lip service to it. How could it be viewed as anything else in the eyes of those working under his charge?

 

[SWP's back]

Im very swayed. Cocaine is nonsense and causes massive harm. These white collar ponces who do it to be cool are fuelling the problem. If this prick becomes PM he is going to be in charge of strategy for tackling drug supply and all the issues it brings. While they may have been having a jolly old time in wine bars and swanky black tie dinner parties at his journalist doos, the gang culture and stabbings and county lines and everything else is directly caused by twats wanting to sniff poison and feel like superman for 20 minutes at a time. Fuck him and all of his ilk

Oh to be so Puritan.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

When it comes to drugs and the crime and societal problems it all causes he would paying nothing more than lip service to it. How could it be viewed as anything else in the eyes of those working under his charge?

I got caught by a copper at 15 riding a Lambretta and fined £10 quid.
So that must mean I have no chance of becoming transport secretary?

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Oh to be so Puritan.

Im far from that believe me. Maybe a bit old fashioned. For me it isnt too much to expect that a Prime Minister, or any minister in fact, has not done cocaine. Maybe its just me, in which case Im comfortable with that.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Im far from that believe me. Maybe a bit old fashioned. For me it isnt too much to expect that a Prime Minister, or any minister in fact, has not done cocaine. Maybe its just me, in which case Im comfortable with that.

Not mocking you in any way mate, there's nothing wrong with holding those views, in fact, as I said, I
have some sympathy, I just feel, especially these days it's a tad naive.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I got caught by a copper at 15 riding a Lambretta and fined £10 quid.
So that must mean I have no chance of becoming transport secretary?

I thought you were that already Mr Grayling............or had you forgotten? Nurse...meds time again..........

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I thought you were that already Mr Grayling............or had you forgotten? Nurse...meds time again..........

No, I'm actually one of the contestants on Love Island at present.

 

[bluethrunthru]

No, I'm actually one of the contestants on Love Island at present.

the bikini suits you lol

 

[domalino]

Im very swayed. Cocaine is nonsense and causes massive harm. These white collar ponces who do it to be cool are fuelling the problem. If this prick becomes PM he is going to be in charge of strategy for tackling drug supply and all the issues it brings. While they may have been having a jolly old time in wine bars and swanky black tie dinner parties at his journalist doos, the gang culture and stabbings and county lines and everything else is directly caused by twats wanting to sniff poison and feel like superman for 20 minutes at a time. Fuck him and all of his ilk

I'd much rather have someone who's used drugs and admitted to it in charge of drug policy than someone like Teresa May.

Someone with experience using drugs is far likely to treat people who use drugs as problematic criminals, which is the root cause of most of the problems with current drug policy.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Not mocking you in any way mate, there's nothing wrong with holding those views, in fact, as I said, I
have some sympathy, I just feel, especially these days it's a tad naive.

I dont think so. Read these two news stories
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-45707227
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...e-class-drug-users-guilty-david-gauke-cocaine
That is the Conservative party conference and the Home Secretary making that statement. Gove would be his boss. How can he back that now with any credibility at all? He is the exact problem they are describing

 

[SWP's back]

I dont think so. Read these two news stories
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-45707227
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...e-class-drug-users-guilty-david-gauke-cocaine
That is the Conservative party conference and the Home Secretary making that statement. Gove would be his boss. How can he back that now with any credibility at all? He is the exact problem they are describing

It’s naive as it’s more than likely that most professionals between 25-50 have probably tried it once.

Best thing would be to legalise, farm and tax it. It’s going that way worldwide with cannabis. We (or our grandchildren) will look back at drug prohibition in the same way we look back at the idiotic alcohol prohibition of 1930’s America.

 

[domalino]

It’s naive as it’s more than likely that most professionals between 25-50 have probably tried it once.

Best thing would be to legalise, farm and tax it. It’s going that way worldwide with cannabis. We (or our grandchildren) will look back at drug prohibition in the same way we look back at the idiotic alcohol prohibition of 1930’s America.

Or just follow other countries and decriminalise small amounts of recreational drugs and use all the wasted money and resources to treat addicts and police the gangs involved in importing and distributing. Because all the evidence points towards that being far more effective.

Of course we cant do that though, because drug policy in this country is never based on fact or scientific evidence, but by the moral outrage of 60+ white conservatives who think anyone who lights up a spliff is a degenerate one step away from turning to a life of violent hard crime unless they're immediately imprisoned for 5 years.

Remember when Teresa May sacked the governments drug adviser because he pointed out that statistically your as likely to die from taking ecstasy as horse riding? A simple fact, used in an article discussing how drug risks are exaggerated by the media and drug policy is set based on fear rather than actual likelihood of harm.

Thats the kind of thing you get when an ultra conservative ministers daughter who wont admit to anything more sinister than trespassing through a wheat field is put in charge

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Or just follow other countries and decriminalise small amounts of recreational drugs and use all the wasted money and resources to treat addicts and police the gangs involved in importing and distributing. Because all the evidence points towards that being far more effective.

Of course we cant do that though, because drug policy in this country is never based on fact or scientific evidence, but by the moral outrage of 60+ white conservatives who think anyone who lights up a spliff is a degenerate one step away from turning to a life of violent hard crime unless they're immediately imprisoned for 5 years.

Remember when Teresa May sacked the governments drug adviser because he pointed out that statistically your as likely to die from taking ecstasy as horse riding? A simple fact, used in an article discussing how drug risks are exaggerated by the media and drug policy is set based on far rather than actual likelihood of harm.

Thats the kind of thing you get when an ultra conservative ministers daughter who wont admit to anything more sinister than trespassing through a wheat field is put in charge

If only it was just drugs policy that wasn’t based on any facts and evidence.....

 

[SWP's back]

Or just follow other countries and decriminalise small amounts of recreational drugs and use all the wasted money and resources to treat addicts and police the gangs involved in importing and distributing. Because all the evidence points towards that being far more effective.

Of course we cant do that though, because drug policy in this country is never based on fact or scientific evidence, but by the moral outrage of 60+ white conservatives who think anyone who lights up a spliff is a degenerate one step away from turning to a life of violent hard crime unless they're immediately imprisoned for 5 years.

Remember when Teresa May sacked the governments drug adviser because he pointed out that statistically your as likely to die from taking ecstasy as horse riding? A simple fact, used in an article discussing how drug risks are exaggerated by the media and drug policy is set based on fear rather than actual likelihood of harm.

Thats the kind of thing you get when an ultra conservative ministers daughter who wont admit to anything more sinister than trespassing through a wheat field is put in charge

Couldn’t agree more.

 

[twosips]

Or just follow other countries and decriminalise small amounts of recreational drugs and use all the wasted money and resources to treat addicts and police the gangs involved in importing and distributing. Because all the evidence points towards that being far more effective.

Of course we cant do that though, because drug policy in this country is never based on fact or scientific evidence, but by the moral outrage of 60+ white conservatives who think anyone who lights up a spliff is a degenerate one step away from turning to a life of violent hard crime unless they're immediately imprisoned for 5 years.

Remember when Teresa May sacked the governments drug adviser because he pointed out that statistically your as likely to die from taking ecstasy as horse riding? A simple fact, used in an article discussing how drug risks are exaggerated by the media and drug policy is set based on fear rather than actual likelihood of harm.

Thats the kind of thing you get when an ultra conservative ministers daughter who wont admit to anything more sinister than trespassing through a wheat field is put in charge

#legaliseit

 

[The blue phantom]

He snorted some gear twenty years ago and that precludes him from co-ordinating drug strategy? Seriously?

I can't stand the guy but its a fuckin non story.
Tbh I wouldn't of even come out and defended myself if I was him. Ridiculous.

 

[Chris in London]

Changed the wording from socialist to win the arguement, was new labour a socialist labour government? No so we haven't had a Socialist Labour Gov since the 70s as said

Gordon Brown used the tax and benefits system to redistribute wealth on a more widespread basis than ever before. Private pension funds (amongst others) were raided and working families’ tax credits (social security benefit payments by another name) were introduced. Dismantling the tax credits system was one of the earliest things George Osborne did.

And you think new labour wasn’t socialist?

 

[Len Rum]

This sort of shit is now becoming utterly ridiculous, politicians who once smoked a spliff or shoved some beak
up his bugle, or smacked someones arse when they were 16. It's now becoming a common theme to start playing the
man not the ball whenever the argument starts to be lost. Not that I'm anyway enamoured of Gove, but I think most folk
are not swayed by these snide attempts at character assassination.
Having said that why has the obsequious idiot 'Apologised,' what for? Just say, 'Yeah I did, so what?

Yeah right, it's tedious isn't it mate especially when it's Tories fessing up.
I'm sure you would have been just as understanding if it had been Labour.