The Conservative Party

[Vic]

Marina Hyde...

'... calls for tougher sentencing are growing, after a repeat offender was let off with a warning despite having been found guilty of another serious breach. The case will add to a sense that the UK is a “soft touch” country where recidivists are not simply allowed but effectively encouraged. In a move likely to cause outrage, activist do-gooders further insisted that an offence being possibly “unintentional” means it didn’t count. The implications of that remark for the wider justice system are “catastrophic and a scandal”, says whichever rentaquote Conservative backbencher answers the phone first.

'The above is, arguably, one way to frame the home secretary’s latest violation of the ministerial code, given that Priti Patel is the market leader in That Sort of Talk if it comes to anyone else. “I think it’s all about us taking personal responsibility,” explained Patel back in the summer, asked what she’d do if she saw her neighbours breaking the rule of six. “If I saw something that I thought was inappropriate then, quite frankly, I would effectively call the police.”

'While Priti Patel would snitch on you for having seven people in your back garden, we do know she wouldn’t call the police if she saw her neighbours breaking international law – in fact she’d vote for it in the House of Commons. She wouldn’t call the police if she saw someone making statements that targeted lawyers in a way that could inspire acts of violence, because it would mean ratting on herself. And she certainly wouldn’t “take personal responsibility” for behaviour for which she was personally responsible. Why bother? It’s certainly not required by her boss, who doesn’t even take personal responsibility for an unspecified number of his own children.'

Priti Patel is all for 'personal responsibility' – unless you're home secretary | Marina Hyde

Her behaviour has prompted the prime minister’s adviser on standards to quit. Maybe he’s the only one who has any? says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde

www.theguardian.com

 

[bonespost]

Be quick and make a square around the sex offender .

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

No more austerity - apart from a public sector pay freeze and more cuts to council funding for local services.

No more austerity for them then .... and so it continues

Socialism for the rich , Capitalism for the poor.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Has there ever been a more inept Cabinet?

Education secretary 'unlawfully scrapped children's rights'

The Appeal Court finds the education secretary acted unlawfully in scrapping children's rights.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[bluethrunthru]

To do this at any time is wicked - to do it in a pandemic is evil - furthermore the Nasty Party by doing this will diminish our presence and importance across the globe

Government set to pass new laws to cut UK overseas aid budget

Church leaders and charities are among those opposing a cut in the UK's overseas aid budget.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

To do this at any time is wicked - to do it in a pandemic is evil - furthermore the Nasty Party by doing this will diminish our presence and importance across the globe

Government set to pass new laws to cut UK overseas aid budget

Church leaders and charities are among those opposing a cut in the UK's overseas aid budget.

www.bbc.co.uk

They dont care....

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

They dont care....

They absolutely don't. One of the consequences of the conservatives approach to marketisation of social care provision is the growth of unregulated and temporary accommodation. Overworked, underqualified, underpaid staff proving poor support for young people and creating an environment that puts them at risk of exploitation from crime and sexual predators. If you turn things over to profit seeking companies eventually you get a system where the most ruthless will set up business and focus on cost at the expense of proving quality services focused on wellbeing and safety as a priority.

Lords' debate ramps up calls for outright ban of unregulated placements - CYP Now

Campaigners have reiterated calls for unregulated placements for all under-18s in care to be banned following a debate in the House of Lords.

www.cypnow.co.uk

 

[bluethrunthru]

They absolutely don't. One of the consequences of the conservatives approach to marketisation of social care provision is the growth of unregulated and temporary accommodation. Overworked, underqualified, underpaid staff proving poor support for young people and creating an environment that puts them at risk of exploitation from crime and sexual predators. If you turn things over to profit seeking companies eventually you get a system where the most ruthless will set up business and focus on cost at the expense of proving quality services focused on wellbeing and safety as a priority.

Lords' debate ramps up calls for outright ban of unregulated placements - CYP Now

Campaigners have reiterated calls for unregulated placements for all under-18s in care to be banned following a debate in the House of Lords.

www.cypnow.co.uk

Its a nonces charter

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Don't go to work when sick, 'peculiar' Brits told

Britons should stop "soldiering on" by going to work when sick and making others ill, the health secretary says.

Matt Hancock said people in the UK were "peculiarly unusual and outliers" for still going to work when unwell.
He said he wanted to see the "global-scale diagnostics capability" continued to be used.
"Afterwards we must use it, not just for coronavirus, but everything," he told MPs.
"I want to have a change in the British way of doing things where 'if in doubt, get a test' doesn't just refer to coronavirus but refers to any illness that you might have.
"Why in Britain do we think it's acceptable to soldier on and go into work if you have flu symptoms or a runny nose, thus making your colleagues ill?

He is right to say this. But it would be sensible for him to think about what action his department and the government could do about instead of just words.

 

[Rascal]

Don't go to work when sick, 'peculiar' Brits told



He is right to say this. But it would be sensible for him to think about what action his department and the government could do about instead of just words.

You are assuming he can think.

Whenever i see him on TV i am convinced there is somebody above him operating the strings.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Don't go to work when sick, 'peculiar' Brits told



He is right to say this. But it would be sensible for him to think about what action his department and the government could do about instead of just words.

This may help Hancock...... having to state the bleeding obvious to the Tories (again)

Proportion of salary covered by sick pay


Germany - 100%

Belgium - 93%

Sweden - 64%

France - 56%

Spain - 42%

United Kingdom - 29%

 

[Blue Maverick]

In the public sector we aren’t asking for huge pay rises, I’d be happy with inflation matching rise, since 2008 I said it would take 15 years to get over the private sector (banks) greed and fuck up, i got no pay rise for over ten years, I’m actually in real terms £5-6k worse off.
Yes my job is more secure but also I’ve not been sat on my arse since March on 80% of my wage (also some still earning while claiming as well), I don’t do cash in hand jobs not paying tax on earnings, do I have a good pension? Relatively but I pay 15% a month of my wage for that privilege it’s not just given to me.
All that happy clapping I said would turn into jealousy later because it’s what Brits do, as a nation we are quite frankly a bunch of selfish bastards, you only have to see how as a society we’ve handled this pandemic compared to other countries.
I will quite happily take a pay freeze to help out, however when all this austerity is over would we see the public sector get a huge pay rise in acknowledgment, would we fuck. Just like in austerity when we bailed the banks out but they were still paying huge bonuses to the people who got us into this mess!
If you want to boost the economy reduce tax rates lower down, more money in people’s pockets they will go out and spend, multi millionaires don’t spending wise contribute to the economy in that way, you can only buy so many yachts or cars. Yes tax them more but go after the tax dodging companies, Google, Amazon etc, that’s were you’ll make a difference.
Its going to take another 15 years or more to get over this mess, if your in the public sector, you’ll get nothing off these bastards and Labour not much better, I see retirement age been bumped to 70 in this period as another way to save money as well, hoping you pop your clogs before you can claim anything.
Good luck to everyone in both sectors but don’t vilify the public sector, you know the ones you all stood outside clapping and kept you safe this year.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

In the public sector we aren’t asking for huge pay rises, I’d be happy with inflation matching rise, since 2008 I said it would take 15 years to get over the private sector (banks) greed and fuck up, i got no pay rise for over ten years, I’m actually in real terms £5-6k worse off.
Yes my job is more secure but also I’ve not been sat on my arse since March on 80% of my wage (also some still earning while claiming as well), I don’t do cash in hand jobs not paying tax on earnings, do I have a good pension? Relatively but I pay 15% a month of my wage for that privilege it’s not just given to me.
All that happy clapping I said would turn into jealousy later because it’s what Brits do, as a nation we are quite frankly a bunch of selfish bastards, you only have to see how as a society we’ve handled this pandemic compared to other countries.
I will quite happily take a pay freeze to help out, however when all this austerity is over would we see the public sector get a huge pay rise in acknowledgment, would we fuck. Just like in austerity when we bailed the banks out but they were still paying huge bonuses to the people who got us into this mess!
If you want to boost the economy reduce tax rates lower down, more money in people’s pockets they will go out and spend, multi millionaires don’t spending wise contribute to the economy in that way, you can only buy so many yachts or cars. Yes tax them more but go after the tax dodging companies, Google, Amazon etc, that’s were you’ll make a difference.
Its going to take another 15 years or more to get over this mess, if your in the public sector, you’ll get nothing off these bastards and Labour not much better, I see retirement age been bumped to 70 in this period as another way to save money as well, hoping you pop your clogs before you can claim anything.
Good luck to everyone in both sectors but don’t vilify the public sector, you know the ones you all stood outside clapping and kept you safe this year.

The money used to bail out the banks was paid back years ago.... austerity is a political choice.

 

[Vic]

After the EHCR report on antisemitism, Labour in turmoil over who should be suspended or expelled.

After the EHCR report on the illegality of the "hostile environment" measures, will the Tories be in turmoil over who should be disciplined?

 

[Blue Maverick]

The money used to bail out the banks was paid back years ago.... austerity is a political choice.

Yes it was, but those years I got sod all, and like you said after I got sod all as well, so excuse the public sector if they are pissed off at people’s reactions to all this.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

This may help Hancock...... having to state the bleeding obvious to the Tories (again)

Proportion of salary covered by sick pay


Germany - 100%

Belgium - 93%

Sweden - 64%

France - 56%

Spain - 42%

United Kingdom - 29%

Tbf we did vote in a tory govt so it was always going to be more Charles Dickens than Karl Marx. Like the banking crises in 2008 an ideological decision has been taken for the poor and public servants to pay the bill.

 

[Rascal]

In the public sector we aren’t asking for huge pay rises, I’d be happy with inflation matching rise, since 2008 I said it would take 15 years to get over the private sector (banks) greed and fuck up, i got no pay rise for over ten years, I’m actually in real terms £5-6k worse off.
Yes my job is more secure but also I’ve not been sat on my arse since March on 80% of my wage (also some still earning while claiming as well), I don’t do cash in hand jobs not paying tax on earnings, do I have a good pension? Relatively but I pay 15% a month of my wage for that privilege it’s not just given to me.
All that happy clapping I said would turn into jealousy later because it’s what Brits do, as a nation we are quite frankly a bunch of selfish bastards, you only have to see how as a society we’ve handled this pandemic compared to other countries.
I will quite happily take a pay freeze to help out, however when all this austerity is over would we see the public sector get a huge pay rise in acknowledgment, would we fuck. Just like in austerity when we bailed the banks out but they were still paying huge bonuses to the people who got us into this mess!
If you want to boost the economy reduce tax rates lower down, more money in people’s pockets they will go out and spend, multi millionaires don’t spending wise contribute to the economy in that way, you can only buy so many yachts or cars. Yes tax them more but go after the tax dodging companies, Google, Amazon etc, that’s were you’ll make a difference.
Its going to take another 15 years or more to get over this mess, if your in the public sector, you’ll get nothing off these bastards and Labour not much better, I see retirement age been bumped to 70 in this period as another way to save money as well, hoping you pop your clogs before you can claim anything.
Good luck to everyone in both sectors but don’t vilify the public sector, you know the ones you all stood outside clapping and kept you safe this year.

Keynes is alive and kicking.

It is a fact that those with least have the highest propensity to spend, so rather than cut income taxes across the board which benefit those with wealth most, cut a regressive tax like VAT and that will boost the economy. The Chancellor also needs to invest in order to create jobs, because the best way out of debt is not austerity it is growth. The multiplier effect of capital investment should in theory create growth, create jobs and also increase spending in the economy.

The vilification of the public sector is purely ideological in nature, the Tories have an inherent belief that the free market will bring the much sought after equilibrium, the good thing about this pandemic is it has shown that the free market is not always the answer. The crisis has been used by companies to profiteer by what Naomi Klein in her book "the shock doctrine" called disaster capitalism. The outsourcing we have witnessed through this pandemic has been nothing short of corruption in my opinion, it has lined the pockets of those who have links to the Government be it donors or family and friends. Which is utterly shameful.

Already this morning though i have seen graphs showing that private sector pay has nose dived in comparison to public sector pay, it is the first attack on the public sector and rather than the Governments much trumpeted desire to level up, if they cut public sector pay or even freeze it then they are in fact levelling down.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Tbf we did vote in a tory govt so it was always going to be more Charles Dickens than Karl Marx. Like the banking crises in 2008 an ideological decision has been taken for the poor and public servants to pay the bill.

Thing is .... most people in the UK don't realise that we have the lowest State Pensions and Welfare Benefits in Europe, yet the majority believe that the main reason immigrants come to the UK is to take advantage of our 'generous benefits system' .....

 

[Blue Maverick]

Keynes is alive and kicking.

It is a fact that those with least have the highest propensity to spend, so rather than cut income taxes across the board which benefit those with wealth most, cut a regressive tax like VAT and that will boost the economy. The Chancellor also needs to invest in order to create jobs, because the best way out of debt is not austerity it is growth. The multiplier effect of capital investment should in theory create growth, create jobs and also increase spending in the economy.

The vilification of the public sector is purely ideological in nature, the Tories have an inherent belief that the free market will bring the much sought after equilibrium, the good thing about this pandemic is it has shown that the free market is not always the answer. The crisis has been used by companies to profiteer by what Naomi Klein in her book "the shock doctrine" called disaster capitalism. The outsourcing we have witnessed through this pandemic has been nothing short of corruption in my opinion, it has lined the pockets of those who have links to the Government be it donors or family and friends. Which is utterly shameful.

Already this morning though i have seen graphs showing that private sector pay has nose dived in comparison to public sector pay, it is the first attack on the public sector and rather than the Governments much trumpeted desire to level up, if they cut public sector pay or even freeze it then they are in fact levelling down.

Had to Google who Keynes was but I think he’s spot on, unfortunately we now have an elite who won’t let go unless something drastic happens in politics. Unfortunately Corbyn was too far left and these twats are too far right. We need someone who’s not had a career in politics but has lived through all this crap to come forward and fight for everyone not just the the elite or poor.

 

[Rascal]

Had to Google who Keynes was but I think he’s spot on, unfortunately we now have an elite who won’t let go unless something drastic happens in politics. Unfortunately Corbyn was too far left and these twats are too far right. We need someone who’s not had a career in politics but has lived through all this crap to come forward and fight for everyone not just the the elite or poor.

The thing is Mav, Corbyn would likely have advocated what I wrote but the perception he was far left meant he never got the chance. Starmer i doubt very much would do what i wrote because the Labour right fell out of love with Keynes and became acolytes of Hayek.