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ctwrd said:
Of course the argument that every asylum seeker should be accommodated is the best policy is flawed but nuanced debate is not entertained in public spheres.
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They are talking about interpreters who put their own and their families lives on the line to help us - this sort of person won't be around next time we need them. Why should they be? Still we are allowing Gurkha vets to starve themselves to death at the end of Downing Street because we won't pay them a decent pension for laying their lives on the line for us, The Govt of this country is making us untrustworthy to the world and we all sleepwalk into it with them - Fucking Disgrace
 
ctwrd said:
Of course the argument that every asylum seeker should be accommodated is the best policy is flawed but nuanced debate is not entertained in public spheres.
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Not entertained in public spheres, isn’t that flawed?

Are we not a democracy?*

*Not aimed at you personally, just the debate.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Not entertained in public spheres, isn’t that flawed?

Are we not a democracy?*

*Not aimed at you personally, just the debate.
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It’s a bit like NHS pay. The only view permitted to be aired is that pay should increase substantially and indefinitely.
There’s no discussion about “how much is enough” and how that should be spread rather than equal across the board. Of course the more nhs pay rises the less money there is for infrastructure and other costs.
 
crazyg said:
Says the poster who voted to let people drown in the RNLI thread.
Shock horror.
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Again, another area where the only permissible argument is to let everyone in.
No debate about how the country they leave behind needs these people to stay to have any chance, how it isn’t the solution.
 
ctwrd said:
Again, another area where the only permissible argument is to let everyone in.
No debate about how the country they leave behind needs these people to stay to have any chance, how it isn’t the solution.
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Nowhere in that poll does it mention letting people in. It asks what you would like the RNLI to do in the event of finding people drowning in the Channel. You voted to leave them to drown.
 
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MP since 2019 - claimed over £25k last year in expenses- he is recorded as having a shared interest in a flat in London in the register of members interests but instead claimed the maximum allowance for rental accommodation in London and celebrates his Govt's main growth industry - Food Banks. What a twat.

 
ctwrd said:
Proving my point.
What happens to countries where most of the good meaning, hard working, intelligent people leave? It rots.
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Where have most of the good meaning, hard working, intelligent people gone do you think? Have you got any figures to substantiate this rather outlandish claim?
 
Fode N The Hole said:
Surely it's already rotting if there are an increasing number of people who think like you do.

Pondlife.
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The main thing that is rotting is clearly the Tory Party - Labour are having fun poking each other and kicking members out but the Tories whole morality and credibility is being eroded from within - Johnson won't make it to the next GE
 
journolud said:
Where have most of the good meaning, hard working, intelligent people gone do you think? Have you got any figures to substantiate this rather outlandish claim?
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Those who make it are the strongest fittest, had the best jobs over there to afford to pay the crooks to get them over here.
What happens to those poorer, weaker left behind?
Short term fix is to let them all in. Long term solution is for governments to rid these countries of corruption.
Never mind. I’ll stick to the easy life and just say let’s encourage dingies
 
ctwrd said:
Those who make it are the strongest fittest, had the best jobs over there to afford to pay the crooks to get them over here.
What happens to those poorer, weaker left behind?
Short term fix is to let them all in. Long term solution is for governments to rid these countries of corruption.
Never mind. I’ll stick to the easy life and just say let’s encourage dingies
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To maximise the drowning potential, you mean?
 
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