The Conservative Party

There are many serious downsides to this shambles, but the silver lining is watching the Tory party tear itself apart (hopefully terminal) amidst a riot of fear, hate, blood-letting and back-biting because the factions cannot agree who should replace someone who they all agree needs to be replaced.
They have landed themselves with the figurehead for failure, the culmination of Tory sleaze, lies, hypocrisy, incompetence, and sneering superciliousness, it sits blinking in the No 10 bunker and it’s leeching poison into every corner of that vile organisation and they have no idea what to do about it.
I love it.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
There are many serious downsides to this shambles, but the silver lining is watching the Tory party tear itself apart (hopefully terminal) amidst a riot of fear, hate, blood-letting and back-biting because the factions cannot agree who should replace someone who they all agree needs to be replaced.
They have landed themselves with the figurehead for failure, the culmination of Tory sleaze, lies, hypocrisy, incompetence, and sneering superciliousness, it sits blinking in the No 10 bunker and it’s leeching poison into every corner of that vile organisation and they have no idea what to do about it.
I love it.
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Petition to bring back Johnson hits 10,000 signatures in two days .......they wouldn't be so stupid would they ?

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'Bring back Boris Johnson' petition reaches 10,000 signatures in two days

A petition calling on Boris Johnson to return as Prime Minister by Conservative Party members has reached 10,000 signatures in two days.
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Petition to bring back Johnson hits 10,000 signatures in two days .......they wouldn't be so stupid would they ?

www.hitc.com

'Bring back Boris Johnson' petition reaches 10,000 signatures in two days

A petition calling on Boris Johnson to return as Prime Minister by Conservative Party members has reached 10,000 signatures in two days.
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No, the next leader needs to have a massive majority in order to still be an MP after the election, so Sunak or Hancock. And better to have a tax dodger than another marriage wrecker, so Sunak.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Petition to bring back Johnson hits 10,000 signatures in two days .......they wouldn't be so stupid would they ?

www.hitc.com

'Bring back Boris Johnson' petition reaches 10,000 signatures in two days

A petition calling on Boris Johnson to return as Prime Minister by Conservative Party members has reached 10,000 signatures in two days.
www.hitc.com www.hitc.com
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Too soon for him. Its only been a matter of months since they prized his lazy ass out. The ink is still wet on the 40+ resignation letters he received.

It's part of the Tory conundrum though. He was a total BSer. Not overly arsed about policy detail he was happy to let Sunak and wiser heads manage the detail. He doesn't have the answers to the complex problems. All he would offer is more BS. They might as well admit they want to wish the problems away.

The tories have made a mess with their policy and incompetence. They don't like their more competent MPs as those MPs know the policy is wrong, the neo-lib dream is under threat. It's a matter of time before they run into massive internal strife as the wets start to put the loonies in their place. The right wing press stand ready to destroy their own over it.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
As an alternative to Tory austerity, what do folk feel about this manifesto:

  • regain European citizenship and the right to study, work and live across the European Union
  • have lower energy prices and security of supply by increasing and diversifying our electricity generating capacity, making better, greener use of abundant natural energy resources
  • have a better, fairer working life, including improved access to flexible working, greater job security through strengthened workplace rights and, if you are a young person, the same minimum wage as everybody else
  • escape an economic model that concentrates wealth in a small proportion of the country while producing inequality, low investment, and low productivity
  • retain free movement
  • benefit directly from investments from the New Investment Fund, with an investment of up to £20 billion in major infrastructure, including investment in more energy-efficient homes, greener transport, better digital and mobile connectivity, and more affordable housing
  • take part in new ways for communities to own and steer the economy, including through direct stakes in local developments
  • live in a country where decisions about how we use our assets, talents and resources reflect our values and democratic choices, allowing us to develop the kind of inclusive consensus-driven economic policies that serve other European countries so well
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Sadds for Prez.
 
Gaudion M said:
Agree but if you were a tory MP now would you take on the top job or even a cabinet post?
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It’s a bit of a fucked up scenario for Tory MP’s.

She surely cannot continue, but no one will want a top job and they can’t change again or it would guarantee a general election, in which they’d all lose their seats, even the top brass…

They do nothing and pressure builds to call a general election and they inevitably get obliterated in 2024.

What do they do?
 
Octavian said:
It’s a bit of a fucked up scenario for Tory MP’s.

She surely cannot continue, but no one will want a top job and they can’t change again or it would guarantee a general election, in which they’d all lose their seats, even the top brass…

They do nothing and pressure builds to call a general election and they inevitably get obliterated in 2024.

What do they do?
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If I was advising them. I'd get LT to resign. Stitch up a process where MPs vote on a leader. But agree a GE for next may. That way they have 6 months or so to get some shit together. They would lose but at least they are in control and would not lose as much as if they tried to hang on for the full term. The risk if they try to brass it out is that the implode and lose a confidence vote. A snap election would kill them.

Not sure who would be a good PM. Maybe look to the Lords, Ken Clarke my choice.
 
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