The dark side

bluegaz13 said:
Been watching City since the 60s (I started young)......saw the good times then and suffered the many poor years in the eighties and nineties.........but wouldn't swap what we have now.

Times have definitely changed from when the only live televised matches that were shown were the Fa cup final and England v Scotland..maybe there is too much football on Tv...but you don't have to watch it !

I respect the opinions and previous posters who say they are giving up their tickets ......But if you you can't enjoy watching what we have now...I'm not sure what would ever make you change your mind because there was nothing more depressing than being battered by United every time we played them with no hope of ever going to Wembley.....never mind winning a trophy !

I'm not so sure I buy into the conspiracy theories......although I do think that Saturday's refereeing performance ranks as poor as I have ever witnessed.....plus the decisions not to send Rojo off or look at Ibrahimivics kick out are baffling to say the least.....but this has more to do with the United dominated press and people in positions of power ........not sure that's corruption though and certainly not a reason to give up on watching 'the best team in the land and all the world.'

But we shouldn't let the bullies win ( the old cartel ).....Imagine how they felt when Aguero scored v QPR...they know we are not going away anytime soon.....just like Bovril, bog rolls and rattles are not going to make a comeback.

So embrace what we have know.....we have the best owners in the world....no doubt !......plus of all the premiership teams I would still wager that City are still more in tune with the supporters than most.

if you can't get excited, a buzz,,,,,,call it what you like, watching great games like last Saturday when the football and drama (good or bad)was absolutely fabulous and as good as it gets.......then just maybe the other reasons given for not going again are a convenient excuse.
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Let's go back to playing Lincoln at sincil bank.
 
Funny isn't it how the slow strangulation of football and subsequently the death of the beautiful game coincides with The scum's Reign of terror.
 
If I could find something else to replace the love and time as much as football has for the last 55 years I would fuck football off it's clearly so bent :(
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Bare with me here lads.

Since the year of our first title victory, I've slowly become very disillusioned with the sport in general, and not just as it pertains to City.

It's basically an open secret that there was shenanigans that season to try stop us from winning the league, and the club had to get investigators onto the case to stop the attempts to curtail us. We went on to win it, but in all honesty it should have been won a long time prior to that.

Since then, we've seen some seriously dodgy stuff.

FIFA/UEFA corruption. Dodgy gambling. Money laundering like the Luiz to PSG deal. Blatant steroid use by some well known players and teams last season. A corrupt farce of a title race last year. All this Whitehill/Bennell stuff.

What we even get as sniff of is just the tip of the iceberg.

So what I want to ask, is it just me or are others feeling like the game is getting lost? I'm not talking sanitised atmospheres or endless Poghype, I mean is the game getting so dark and murky that it's sliding into an abyss?

Thoughts?
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This open secret, I must have missed that one.
So in season 2011/12 what allegedly took place?

What shenanigans were going on to try and derail our march to the title?

How did city find out about it?

Who did they send in to investigate it?

How was the evidence presented to the FA and what did the FA do about it?
 
The Northern Baptist said:
This open secret, I must have missed that one.
So in season 2011/12 what allegedly took place?

What shenanigans were going on to try and derail our march to the title?

How did city find out about it?

Who did they send in to investigate it?

How was the evidence presented to the FA and what did the FA do about it?
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@Thaksinssoldier mate you can't come on here going on about conspiracies to stop us winning the league and not back it up without at least a bit of info? PM if you don't want to put it on the open forum.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
@Thaksinssoldier mate you can't come on here going on about conspiracies to stop us winning the league and not back it up without at least a bit of info? PM if you don't want to put it on the open forum.
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I've been trying to find out about this too. What really shocked me was that the author of the football is fixed blog is the person who was behind compiling both dossiers... according to posts on here... search here for 'dossier' 'bullivant' 'Kelso' and there's quite a few posts telling the story..

As for the shenanigans.. some of this probably applies http://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?id=217
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
There's a number of ways the game is corrupt in one sense or other.

There's the straightforward commercial interests of the PL/Sky/BT. They're all interdependent so getting good viewing figures helps them all and poor viewing figures hurts them all. Scudamore was quite open about it when he said that the rags not being in the top four damaged the brand. Them, Liverpool, Arsenal and maybe Chelsea are the preferred top four as those clubs bring in the viewers. You can easily imagine a scenario where the PL and/or Sky feel their revenue is being hit by the rags and/or Liverpool being mid-table and have a quiet word with Mike Riley. He's their employee as PGMOL is jointly owned by the PL, EFL and FA. Why do England players like Rooney seem to get such leeway? Remember John Terry's red card against us? It was rescinded on appeal because it was felt he wasn't the last defender. However the rules are (according to Mike Riley) that they can only be rescinded if there's an obvious error not if it should have been a yellow. Terry's should at least have been a yellow as there was undoubtedly a foul on Jo. So the ban should have stood but he got away scot free.

Ever seen the England squad and thought "WTF is he doing there?" Well maybe his agent has given the England manager a backhander as he knows his player's value will increase if he's in the squad and team. "There's quarter of a million in it for you if x gets a game." "Wight. Tell him to play out of his skin for the next few games and I'll awwange it for the next international".
We know managers take backhanders from players for getting picked.

Then there's gambling. So many clubs are sponsored by gambling companies and Bet365 effectively own Stoke as the Coates family own both. Sky also have their own gambling company. While the European market is pretty well regulated, the Far Eastern market isn't and something like £1bn is staked on PL games alone every weekend out there. We've seen plenty of evidence of Far Eastern syndicates trying to fix outcomes in some way (floodlight failures being one). Someone was murdered because they threatened to blow the whistle on a ruse whereby Chinese syndicates had "spotters" at games feeding back live information ahead of the TV stream, which had a delay of a minute or so.

You don't necessarily have to fix a whole game but just certain events and the obvious people to get to fix a game are 1) refs and 2) goalkeepers. It might be the number of cards issued for example. How many times have we seen refs and said "When is he going to get a card out FFS"? It could be clean sheets, total goals or winning margins. A goalie can be unbeatable one game yet play like his feet are nailed to the floor next game and no one raises an eyebrow. "He's a bit inconsistent" or "he was a bit too pumped up" say the media. And we swallow it.
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I dont want to get in trouble but is that last line a reference too a much pined after goalkeeper on here?
 
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