The David Moyes Thread [Merged]

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

If he wants to remain in management then there are sufficient Rag sycophants within the game who might make any dealings 'awkward' if he were to shed any light on the details of this week.

 

[Kippax.]

utd never make knee jerk reactions, ever! They give all their managers time not like every other club. Cunts! Utd your no fucking different you set of pricks, youre like ever other club. Dont think you are any different, because your fucking not. Give it time and you plastic support will disappear you set of twats. You deserve everything thats been thrown at you. Welcome to the real game you soft twats

 

[manchester blue]

It cannot be constructive dismissal because he would have to have resigned on the basis that his employers made his working life impossible. As far as I know he was sacked so he cannot sue for CD. Rumours in the media won't wash. He was sacked when the statement was released and he managed them v Everton.

 

[chris63]

 

[mcmanus]

His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.

Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.

You raise an interesting, wider point with what you post and on that basis maybe the whole NDA discussions are still ongoing.

Moyes is clearly the only ever incumbent of the united manager's seat in the digital age, other than Ferguson. Taggart can be guaranteed to broadly toe the party line going forward, because it suits his agenda. He, more than anyone, is responsible for this preposterous construct of "the united way" and I have no doubt that he has promoted this mantra primarily for reasons of reflected glory: promotion of youth, continuity of management, exciting attacking football are actually about him, not the club, in his mind. united is merely a vehicle to fuel his egomania. If he turns against the club he undermines his own achievements and image, something he simply isn't going to do. I also wonder how much information, not in the public domain, Uncle Malc has about the GPC, which may also act as a further inhibitor on him commenting upon the club and its owners in anything other than positive terms, at least publicly.

Moyes has no such limits upon the expression of his views. In actual fact the opposite is true. For him to achieve some degree of validation and vindication for his time at united it may be necessary for him to shatter the carefully constructed image of a club that do things differently, with "dignity and class". Making the wider world aware of the difficulty of his task in such a poisonous environment could be his only way to secure another worthwhile job in football.

That presents him with a significant bargaining chip, as the only remaining limit on his public utterances about his time at united remains a contractual one. A man with everything to gain from spilling the beans against an organisation with such a carefully crafted public image as united, especially an image that is built on sand, is holding a remarkably good hand.

The question for Moyes is what's more important to him now? His future career in the game, or a severance package which buys his silence? The answer to the question is based on how much fire is left in his belly and the manner in which united conduct the negotiations. One wrong word, or a hint that gets implied as a threat and a combustible man such as Moyes could be prone to say "fuck you and fuck the united way" and to spill all to a compliant journalist still harbouring residual resentment at their treatment at the hands of Taggart.

We'll see soon enough, I guess.

GDM you never disappoint pal.

 

[Malty]

I think he needs to spill the beans

I have a suspicion that Giggs and the Class of 92 are not the saints they are portrayed and stuck the knife in. Let's face it Giggs has previous..

 

[eyejay51]

P'raps Bryan Briggs will get a writ - he knows the procedure.

 

[levets]

His severance agreement will be NDA'd to the max.

Now this is interesting. I've heard he's due about a £5m pay out based on his failure to hit any of his targets.
Apparently he's not happy with this and wants £10m. May be if they do want None Disclosure then they will
have to pay the higher figure? I don't know anything but I'm guessing a public slanging match between Moyes
and his players is the last thing the club (sorry brand) would want.

No No No...My understanding is that there was a clause in his contract restricting any severance payment to 1 year max if yoonited failed to qualify for Chimps League. Thats why they waited until they were sure they couldn't qualify before they sacked him.

However the briefing / leaks to the press the day before the Everton match may have screwed them 'cos now its looking like constructive dismissal which has an unlimited payout set by a tribunal.

My guess is that the LMA statement today is the first shot across the bows.

My guess is that the LMA statement today is the first shot across the bows.
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You're spot on I reckon.
Definite constructive dismissal case brewing.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Is it safe to turn on the TV or radio yet?

 

[CheethamHillBlue]

I think he needs to spill the beans

I have a suspicion that Giggs and the Class of 92 are not the saints they are portrayed and stuck the knife in. Let's face it Giggs has previous..

Are you getting 'knife' and 'knob' mixed up?