The David Moyes Thread [Merged]

manchester blue said:
It cannot be constructive dismissal because he would have to have resigned on the basis that his employers made his working life impossible. As far as I know he was sacked so he cannot sue for CD. Rumours in the media won't wash. He was sacked when the statement was released and he managed them v Everton.

This is true, there is no constructive dismissal case he can bring. Constructive dismissal is one of the most misunderstood terms in employment law but we all know a pub bore who thinks they're an expert who uses the phrase every time someone has a hard time at work! Cases of constructive dismissal upheld at Employment Tribunal are as rare as rocking horse shite. An employee has to basically prove that the employer's behaviour was so bad that he had no option but to resign immediately. Examples of such behaviour include failing to pay you, or making you work in dangerous conditions. Moyes was apparently sacked, there was no resignation on his part so cannot bring a claim of constructive dismissal.
 
I just hope he does the decent thing and tells them to stuff their nda and tells the world what cunts they are.
 
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David Moyes is emerging as a contender to become Tottenham’s next manager but senior figures at the club are divided over his possible appointment following his dismal short reign at Manchester United.

Standard Sport understands chairman Daniel Levy remains a keen admirer of the 50-year-old Scot, having considered him to replace Harry Redknapp in 2012 before opting for Andre Villas-Boas.

Moyes was sacked by United on Tuesday after 10 months in charge at Old Trafford but is thought to be open to a quick return to management in a bid to restore his damaged reputation.

Spurs will replace Tim Sherwood this summer and are weighing up their options. A key factor is the financial implications of any appointment, with the club pressing ahead in their plans to build a new stadium.

Louis van Gaal has been considered the front-runner for some time and Spurs would not have to pay any compensation to sign the Dutchman because he will be a free agent after the World Cup when his contract ends with Holland.

However, it is thought Van Gaal would command a much bigger salary than Moyes and Spurs are mindful of making a large financial commitment at a time when stadium expansion costs will rise considerably.

Moyes has worked within a limited budget at Everton and has a track record prior to his time at United of extracting excellent value from the transfer market. Once his compensation package is agreed with United, the Scot will be available to join another club for nothing.

Van Gaal’s CV is striking but he is considered an egotistical character by many within the game and the dignity with which Moyes conducted himself throughout his ordeal at Old Trafford has impressed some in north London.

There is also a concern at Spurs that they are behind United in the pecking order of selecting a new manager — Van Gaal would prefer a move to the Premier League champions and Spurs do not want to be kept waiting or be seen as a back-up option to prospective candidates.

Bookmakers this morning slashed the odds on Moyes ending up at White Hart Lane. However, it is believed that there is not universal support for a pursuit of Moyes among the Tottenham hierarchy. Some are concerned that he was unable to keep United in the top four, while Roberto Martinez’s impressive first season at Goodison Park has cast further doubt on Moyes’s own ability to deliver Champions League football.

There are also reservations over Moyes’s conservative brand of football, which attracted much criticism at United. Other possible alternatives include Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino, who has just one year left on his current deal, and Rafa Benitez, who is thought to be keen on returning to the Premier League and is currently stalling over signing a new deal at Napoli.

Martinez offered words of support for Moyes. “There has been a lot of talk over the matter,” he said.

“He is a strong man with a winning mentality and I am sure he will bounce back straight away.

“He has ensured he will be ready to get into another job as quick as he can. He won’t have the lack of opportunities.”
 
like him or not he's been shafted by mard arse players. just like our lot did with bobby.

both sets of players should hang their heads in shame. this is what 200 grand a week brings, the players now run the clubs and its wrong.
 
de niro said:
like him or not he's been shafted by mard arse players. just like our lot did with bobby.

both sets of players should hang their heads in shame. this is what 200 grand a week brings, the players now run the clubs and its wrong.


Not sure about the £200k a week being a driver - Brian Clough at Leeds and our own Ron Saunders back in the 70's suffered player power in much the same way
 
bluethrunthru said:
de niro said:
like him or not he's been shafted by mard arse players. just like our lot did with bobby.

both sets of players should hang their heads in shame. this is what 200 grand a week brings, the players now run the clubs and its wrong.


Not sure about the £200k a week being a driver - Brian Clough at Leeds and our own Ron Saunders back in the 70's suffered player power in much the same way

it might have been 2 grand a week back then but no way was leeds going to side with clough over bremner and co. same with our lot and ron saunders.
of all the clubs in world football Manchester city is the one that can say to a player, any player, if you don't like it fuck off.
we were champions and we fucked it up from the dressing to the very top.
I love city and I want them to win everything in sight
 
de niro said:
bluethrunthru said:
de niro said:
like him or not he's been shafted by mard arse players. just like our lot did with bobby.

both sets of players should hang their heads in shame. this is what 200 grand a week brings, the players now run the clubs and its wrong.


Not sure about the £200k a week being a driver - Brian Clough at Leeds and our own Ron Saunders back in the 70's suffered player power in much the same way

it might have been 2 grand a week back then but no way was leeds going to side with clough over bremner and co. same with our lot and ron saunders.
of all the clubs in world football Manchester city is the one that can say to a player, any player, if you don't like it fuck off.
we were champions and we fucked it up from the dressing to the very top.
I love city and I want them to win everything in sight

When player power rears it's ugly head I often think it's a case of "careful what you wish for". Whilst Bobby was allegedly a tyrant and had
faced a player revolt previously at Inter his style of play actually suited some of our mard arse players far better than Pellegrini's more
attacking style. One or two of the "untouchables" have been exposed as not as good as they thought they were under the new regime.
Joe Hart is a case in point. He clearly struggles with the "sweeper keeper" type role. I don't think any club can afford to lose too many
players at once hence Clough's dismissal at Leeds after 44 days and Mancini's removal from City but for individual players any change
of manager can prove a double-edged sword. I disagree that we are in the best position of any club in world football to "fuck off" any
player. Now FFP is here we can't just buy a complete new team every 3 years (I don't think that the owner would be too happy either)
because the manager has fallen out with the current lot. The players should back the manager, whatever they think of him, but the
manager has to behave responsibly as well. Bobby like Ron Saunders in the '70s had fallen out with too many players all at once.
 
moyes was a massive appointment

giggs is even more massive

but the next clown to be appointed will be really really really massive

massive
 

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