The dying NASA scientist videos

Even old women and kids are lying about it all now, its a complete Fake and WE ARE THE ONE AND ONLY, so don't be so bloody stupid and everyone needs to grow uuuuupppppp, yeah.



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peacefrog said:
I can't say life does exist, no, but I do think it very likely.

I don't believe in a parallel universe either.

Not saying you are right or wrong as i'm certainly not qualified to do so but what makes you think it is very likely - just purely because of the size of the universe and the number of stars?
 
johnmc said:
peacefrog said:
I can't say life does exist, no, but I do think it very likely.

I don't believe in a parallel universe either.

Not saying you are right or wrong as i'm certainly not qualified to do so but what makes you think it is very likely - just purely because of the size of the universe and the number of stars?

Not just that but that is a big part of it. Also there is nothing really special about our sun and solar system that makes it different from any of the other hundred trillion systems. I'm talking about basic elements, hydrogen, helium, carbon and others that are everywhere.
 
pee dubya said:
I believe there is life on mars. Microscopic life, but still life.

Why do you think that when visits have failed to even say bacteria exists?<br /><br />-- Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:36 pm --<br /><br />
peacefrog said:
Not just that but that is a big part of it. Also there is nothing really special about our sun and solar system that makes it different from any of the other hundred trillion systems. I'm talking about basic elements, hydrogen, helium, carbon and others that are everywhere.

Maybe nothing special in the elements themselves, but maybe in the quantities involved? The atmosphere. The axis of the earth? As mentioned the distance from the sun, from the moon etc etc. Even the food chain.

If the universe being so large forms a big part of your assumption then that itself isnt (for me) a reason as such. On that reckoning you could conclude that the universe is so big that there must be human life elsewhere.
 
johnmc said:
pee dubya said:
I believe there is life on mars. Microscopic life, but still life.

Why do you think that when visits have failed to even say bacteria exists?

Because i think it's underground, where it's still warm enough for liquid water and life. There's methane in the Martian atmosphere which is a gas generally produced by biological processes. It might be fossilised i suppose.
 
johnmc said:
pee dubya said:
I believe there is life on mars. Microscopic life, but still life.

Why do you think that when visits have failed to even say bacteria exists?

-- Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:36 pm --

peacefrog said:
Not just that but that is a big part of it. Also there is nothing really special about our sun and solar system that makes it different from any of the other hundred trillion systems. I'm talking about basic elements, hydrogen, helium, carbon and others that are everywhere.

Maybe nothing special in the elements themselves, but maybe in the quantities involved? The atmosphere. The axis of the earth? As mentioned the distance from the sun, from the moon etc etc. Even the food chain.

If the universe being so large forms a big part of your assumption then that itself isnt (for me) a reason as such. On that reckoning you could conclude that the universe is so big that there must be human life elsewhere.

I forgot to mention oxygen, which is also abundant. And hydrogen and oxygen make water.

I think that once you understand that every atom in the living body was created inside a star you begin to realise the possibilities of life being everywhere.
 
johnmc said:
peacefrog said:
I can't say life does exist, no, but I do think it very likely.

I don't believe in a parallel universe either.
just purely because of the size of the universe and the number of stars?
I tend to come to a balance between the the mediocrity principle and the Fermi Paradox. There is no reason to assume that the earth is special. It's composition and orbit are nothing out of the ordinary, nor is our star, its composition, output, and its position in the galaxy and the universe. By the extension of this principle, when you consider the sheer number of stars and therefore planets, you can come to the conclusion that there must be many earth-like planets out there as an absolute figure.

However, it also appears, to me at least, that our galaxy is not teaming with intelligent life (intelligence for the purpose of the Fermi Paradox being defined as the ability to communicate at distances of a galaxy or more through any means). Our planet has had thousands upon thousands of species in its billions of years and only one has reached that level.

So, with that in mind. I believe life will be common throughout our galaxy and the universe. Indeed, it's probably in our own solar system e.g. Titan, but intelligent life will be exceptionally rare, but not so rare so that we'd be alone.
 
Skashion said:
johnmc said:
just purely because of the size of the universe and the number of stars?
I tend to come to a balance between the the mediocrity principle and the Fermi Paradox. There is no reason to assume that the earth is special. It's composition and orbit are nothing out of the ordinary, nor is our star, its composition, output, and its position in the galaxy and the universe. By the extension of this principle, when you consider the sheer number of stars and therefore planets, you can come to the conclusion that there must be many earth-like planets out there as an absolute figure.

However, it also appears, to me at least, that our galaxy is not teaming with intelligent life (intelligence for the purpose of the Fermi Paradox being defined as the ability to communicate at distances of a galaxy or more through any means). Our planet has had thousands upon thousands of species in its billions of years and only one has reached that level.

So, with that in mind. I believe life will be common throughout our galaxy and the universe. Indeed, it's probably in our own solar system e.g. Titan, but intelligent life will be exceptionally rare, but not so rare so that we'd be alone.

This is correct.

You could also ask how long would the average intelligent life last? Like how many intelligences that have had the power to split the atom didn't destroy themselves before evolving to a level to develop space travel? Will we?
 

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