The End of on Street Parking within walking distance of the Etihad

Blue Mist said:
No it was in several areas within Greater Manchester. The M60 was a sort of boundary. It wasn't just Manchester City Council.
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That was 10 years before Burnham and before the GMCA existed. The final vote was 2010, and it was being strongly pushed since at least 2007, then Burnham came in 2017 as Major.

It was AGMA back in those days and voluntary cooperation between the 10 districts.
 
Devils advocate and with someome with relatives who live a stones throw from the ground, the area of East Manchester, well any residential suburb which is post industrial, be it bradford' beswick, clayton, platting , gorton etc were not built with everyone owning a car a a concept, never mind households that have 2-3.

Where my parents live there is barely free parking spaces on non match days on their close and even though they have no car the spot outside their house is occupied daily.

resident zones are necessary unfortunately if honest.

Metrolink park and ride should be pushed, with a standard matchday fare from whichever P&R station used rather than zones (one cheaper than car parking near the ground).

A low lever (3 storey) multi- storey car park, though no longer fashionable as a thing, would be a better build during the holt town regenertion than one of the sets of apartments, with community facities on the ground floor like shops, cafe/coffee shop, bar etc so ot would stil lbe a money maker in close season from rents at least
 
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Blue Mist said:
The wanker that is Burnham still had the nearside lane all along Chester Road cordoned off. He brought it in as a cycle lane to get people to work. Yeh fucking right. He is now making a bottle neck at Chester Road/Talbot Road for no other reason than to force people out of their cars.
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One of my lads used to live on Chester Rd, he said it was mental, nothing 99.9% of time in the cycle lane and cars sat spewing fumes out as they couldn't move.

He kept that lane there for what seemed forever too.
 
urban genie said:
Devils advocate and with someome with relatives who live a stones throw from the ground, the area of East Manchester, well any residential suburb which is post industrial, be it bradford' beswick, clayton, platting , gorton etc were not built with everyone owning a car a a concept, never mind households that have 2-3.

Where my parents live there is barely free parking spaces on non match days on their close and even though they have no car the spot outside their house is occupied daily.

resident zones are necessary unfortunately if honest.

Metrolink park and ride should be pushed, with a standard matchday fare from whichever P&R station used rather than zones (one cheaper than car parking near the ground).

A low lever (3 storey) multi- storey car park, though no longer fashionable as a thing, would be a better build during the holt town regenertion than one of the sets of apartments, with community facities on the ground floor like shops, cafe/coffee shop, bar etc so ot would stil lbe a money maker in close season from rents at least
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They are round housing but Briscoe lane and round the cemetery aren’t it ridiculous, also short sighted, why not put parking bays in and charge they could’ve made a fortune from concert goers etc, yet they have a 90 min limit, fucking joke.
 
I lived close to Upton Park for a decade and having a football ground on your doorstep was part and parcel of living in the area. Even with Upton Park, East Ham, Plaistow and other stations around, a number of people would drive and park locally.

If I wanted to get anywhere without traffic or queues then I’d check when they were home and plan accordingly. Matchday fans kept pubs going (a few now closed) and there were jobs created too.
 
Blue Maverick said:
They are round housing but Briscoe lane and round the cemetery aren’t it ridiculous, also short sighted, why not put parking bays in and charge they could’ve made a fortune from concert goers etc, yet they have a 90 min limit, fucking joke.
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Not their agenda..........get everyone off the roads.

Them Burnham congestion cameras aren't there for nothing either...........matter of time.

Mind you yellow buses makes a massive difference. No bus shelters though sadly on St Albans Avenue as I found out V Burnaly sadly.
 
urban genie said:
Devils advocate and with someome with relatives who live a stones throw from the ground, the area of East Manchester, well any residential suburb which is post industrial, be it bradford' beswick, clayton, platting , gorton etc were not built with everyone owning a car a a concept, never mind households that have 2-3.

Where my parents live there is barely free parking spaces on non match days on their close and even though they have no car the spot outside their house is occupied daily.

resident zones are necessary unfortunately if honest.

Metrolink park and ride should be pushed, with a standard matchday fare from whichever P&R station used rather than zones (one cheaper than car parking near the ground).

A low lever (3 storey) multi- storey car park, though no longer fashionable as a thing, would be a better build during the holt town regenertion than one of the sets of apartments, with community facities on the ground floor like shops, cafe/coffee shop, bar etc so ot would stil lbe a money maker in close season from rents at least
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Yeah I get that must be a nightmare for residents having people parking in front of their houses for hours, I've even seen people park in front of driveways which is just selfish.
I think people on here a getting at the parking restrictions where there is no houses in the streets, industrial estates etc. they shouldn't be restrictions there, only in front of someones house.
 
deafmanstevo said:
Yeah I get that must be a nightmare for residents having people parking in front of their houses for hours, I've even seen people park in front of driveways which is just selfish.
I think people on here a getting at the parking restrictions where there is no houses in the streets, industrial estates etc. they shouldn't be restrictions there, only in front of someones house.
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Exactly...............I don't like parking in front of anyones house so never do unless it's for minutes. But Industrial estates, or main roads with no houses.......if it isn't blocking artics etc why the fuck not? If there are issues put yellow lines in those places where there is an issue. Grimshaw lane at the bridge for example.
 
deafmanstevo said:
Yeah I get that must be a nightmare for residents having people parking in front of their houses for hours, I've even seen people park in front of driveways which is just selfish.
I think people on here a getting at the parking restrictions where there is no houses in the streets, industrial estates etc. they shouldn't be restrictions there, only in front of someones house.
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I agree where there is no houses the restrictions should be not in force.
 
urban genie said:
I agree where there is no houses the restrictions should be not in force.
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I think part of the reasoning (not that I agree these restrictions need doing right now in the industrial zones) is the thousands of houses due to be built in the area. This map (which might not be fully up to date but is dated 2023) shows where the new housing is going to be built.


The Manox and Jacksons Brickworks being the two largest developments and Grey Mare Lane estate almost doubling in size (297 to 550 dwellings). This will encourage further land to be developed and it surely won't be long before some of the uglier industrial units get replaced. It's not just parking spaces either, it's longer queues at junctions, the theory behind reducing (or not increasing) the number of cars is right, it's just that the buses and trams cannot cope.

It's a double-edged sword for me. I'm excited by the way the area is going to change and am hopeful that it will lead to improved transport connections, but it's going to be painful changing our habits. I felt a little stressed on Wednesday not knowing if I'd be able to get in my usual car park (we've already given up using free spaces) which was made worse because one of our group was delayed and then the weather was crap. In the end, the double yellows haven't reached our location yet, so I get to go through all the worry again for the next game!
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
I think part of the reasoning (not that I agree these restrictions need doing right now in the industrial zones) is the thousands of houses due to be built in the area. This map (which might not be fully up to date but is dated 2023) shows where the new housing is going to be built.


The Manox and Jacksons Brickworks being the two largest developments and Grey Mare Lane estate almost doubling in size (297 to 550 dwellings). This will encourage further land to be developed and it surely won't be long before some of the uglier industrial units get replaced. It's not just parking spaces either, it's longer queues at junctions, the theory behind reducing (or not increasing) the number of cars is right, it's just that the buses and trams cannot cope.

It's a double-edged sword for me. I'm excited by the way the area is going to change and am hopeful that it will lead to improved transport connections, but it's going to be painful changing our habits. I felt a little stressed on Wednesday not knowing if I'd be able to get in my usual car park (we've already given up using free spaces) which was made worse because one of our group was delayed and then the weather was crap. In the end, the double yellows haven't reached our location yet, so I get to go through all the worry again for the next game!
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Where's that mate? ;)
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
I think part of the reasoning (not that I agree these restrictions need doing right now in the industrial zones) is the thousands of houses due to be built in the area. This map (which might not be fully up to date but is dated 2023) shows where the new housing is going to be built.


The Manox and Jacksons Brickworks being the two largest developments and Grey Mare Lane estate almost doubling in size (297 to 550 dwellings). This will encourage further land to be developed and it surely won't be long before some of the uglier industrial units get replaced. It's not just parking spaces either, it's longer queues at junctions, the theory behind reducing (or not increasing) the number of cars is right, it's just that the buses and trams cannot cope.

It's a double-edged sword for me. I'm excited by the way the area is going to change and am hopeful that it will lead to improved transport connections, but it's going to be painful changing our habits. I felt a little stressed on Wednesday not knowing if I'd be able to get in my usual car park (we've already given up using free spaces) which was made worse because one of our group was delayed and then the weather was crap. In the end, the double yellows haven't reached our location yet, so I get to go through all the worry again for the next game!
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Those 3 sites remain unaffected by the changes either already in or too far out.

They have clearly stated there have been complaints by current occupiers of the commercial sites about football parking, although most don't operate during football hours now Princes has gone which took up most of Lord Street North and the sites have new tenants or empty so far. When major developments happen they need new roads so new TROs would need to be done, so it is not thinking ahead doing the whole area now.

It won't all be housing as housing growth is employment led, so they won't get rid of all the commercial for residential and there are no plans to do this, and due to a plentiful supply of new home in Manchester a balance will be maintained.

One issue with the residents parking bays is, they are no wide enough to fit even the smallest car in, but that is a different matter.
 
I walk and get the tram. The weather was horrible on Wednesday night so the trams were busier and slower all the way from East Didsbury where I got on. A broken rail at Exchange Square only one of the cross City routes was open further slowing the tram. More people will have to get public transport which will mean extreme pinch points where people will be packed in like sardines. We need more trams but they have said they will not provide any. This does not make sense if the Council are extending No Parking across a wider area.
 
kippax_blueboy said:
I walk and get the tram. The weather was horrible on Wednesday night so the trams were busier and slower all the way from East Didsbury where I got on. A broken rail at Exchange Square only one of the cross City routes was open further slowing the tram. More people will have to get public transport which will mean extreme pinch points where people will be packed in like sardines. We need more trams but they have said they will not provide any. This does not make sense if the Council are extending No Parking across a wider area.
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Did they really say they are not putting extra trams on? Daft cunts
 
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