The end of the Conservative Party?

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There’s going to be a lot more of this to come

Of course. It’s always been there and has been emboldened by Brexit.

This could be a tipping point towards more sensible politics.

Could.

 

[bluethrunthru]

There’s going to be a lot more of this to come

I fear you may be right if its Rishi - quite a few more may out themselves though in some ways thats not a bad thing IF that means they are exposed and dealt with

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I fear you may be right if its Rishi - quite a few more may out themselves though in some ways thats not a bad thing IF that means they are exposed and dealt with

They'll be off to join & vote for Tices' Reform Party

 

[MillionMilesAway]

They'll be off to join & vote for Tices' Reform Party

There certainly seems potential that a further right party will arise in the way that UKIP's rise made Cameron think he needed to lurch right to neutralise them.

It seems odds on that the Mail/Express/Telegraph will follow (or lead?) and give them the publicity.

That leaves the more left side of the Conservatives possibly small or crushed - would some move to the LibDems? Not sure, but the logical approach for other parties is then to occupy the middle regions.

 

[bluethrunthru]

They'll be off to join & vote for Tices' Reform Party

and the racism starts

 

[bluethrunthru]

There certainly seems potential that a further right party will arise in the way that UKIP's rise made Cameron think he needed to lurch right to neutralise them.

It seems odds on that the Mail/Express/Telegraph will follow (or lead?) and give them the publicity.

That leaves the more left side of the Conservatives possibly small or crushed - would some move to the LibDems? Not sure, but the logical approach for other parties is then to occupy the middle regions.

If they keep drifting further and further to the Right the less relevant they become - as Corbyn showed not enough Brits like extremists to elect them. You must not forget that even where they were before Johnson quit and they installed Truss they were polling very badly as a party and Johnsons ratings were down the pan.

 

[aguero93:20]

Nah. Cockroaches are hard to kill.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

People were saying this under Theresa May, remember.

 

[bluethrunthru]

People were saying this under Theresa May, remember.

Yeah but post Mayday Johnson evicted any moderates from the Party and they were replaced by swivel eyed Brexit supporting loonies many of whom hated foreigners with racist leanings so the number of people in the Party who were prepared to say this and support it. The Tory Party is a much different place in just 5 short years

 

[BrianW]

The problem is people don't really know what they want. Well, they do. Low taxes, high wages and top-quality public services. But it's impossible to square the circle. Especially when Brexit has cut 4% off GDP, every year forever. To put that in context, that's enough to build HS2 every year!

This country is deeply corrupt and malign organisations including but not limited to Tufton Street, the Daily Mail and the RW media generally hold us in thrall and stop us from modernising. Part of the problem is we have never had a proper revolution and so outdated institutions have never been reformed and resist reformation. These include Parliament with its bloated, unelected Upper House and its pathetic, outdated voting system for the Commons. The absence of a proper codified constitution is also a liability. The system only works if everyone is a 'gentleman' with 'honour'. All it takes is a chancer like Johnson to demonstrate that those unwritten conventions no longer suffice.

How anyone sorts this mess out I do not know. I suppose theoretically an actual revolution might break the logjam, but revolutions can also lead to chaos and dictatorship.