The end of the Conservative Party?

East Level 2 said:
This pensioner won't be voting Tory, and while others often do they'll be a bit dischuffed if he doesn't do something about fuel prices. Most pensioners, if we are allowed to generalise, spend a lot of time at home with the heating on.
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A sweeping statement, apologies.
 
Hope so. Sick of the constant reshuffle of deadbeats and economic mistakes. Working people pay the price time and time again.

The system is broken but that’s for another debate.

If this is the best “man” can offer then it is no where near good enough.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Yes, that’s right, I’m the reason why the country is in such a shit state at the moment. It’s all my fault. Although in my defence I am just a thick patsy, controlled entirely by the MSM/neolib big business (same thing), because as you argue so persuasively, I’m incapable of any independent thought. That was of course until I read your enlightening post. I must say, it’s all so obvious now.

Having seen the error of my ways, it’s only right that I should say that Jeremy Corbyn was in fact massively popular and a brilliant leader of the Labour Party. It wasn’t his fault that people didn’t vote for him in 2019, and that he led Labour to a landslide defeat in a election they really should have won at a canter. It’s all the fault of the MSM, casting their spell over thick idiots like me.

People really liked him, as you said, and he was particularly impressive during the Brexit campaign, laying out a clear argument for remaining in the EU and always being front and centre of the debate. He never once shirked his responsibilities. You certainly can’t blame him for millions of Labour supporters voting to leave, or failing to hold a piss poor PM like Theresa May to account when she moved away from the single market and peddled her Brexit fantasies.

In complete contrast to Liz Truss, he was also very good at promoting Labour’s most talented people to the front bench, and for not alienating MPs who didn’t vote for him in his leadership campaign. You can see this by him giving chancers like Yvette Cooper short shrift, and promoting the real talent like Diane Abbott, whose all-round competence and quick mental arithmetic- a la Manuel Akanji - was a major vote winner.

I suspect this even-handedness was why he was so popular across the centre ground of the Labour Party, and why people like Jonathan Ashworth spoke so highly of him ahead of the last election. Frankly, any Labour MPs who didn’t like him were just closet Tories, although it was always heartening to see Corbyn standing up for people like Margaret Hodge and Luciana Berger when they were on the wrong end of some mild, good natured banter. I can’t for one second see why people in Starmer’s office now call the Party’s remaining Corbyn supporters ‘twats in T-shirts’, or indeed why they were so happy when so few of them turned up to this year’s conference.

Overall, given his glorious record, and the fantastic opposition he presented to the Conservative governments of his day, I can only apologise for not recognising the unrivalled achievements of our dear leader.
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I forgive you.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Can’t read his terrible scrawl.
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Probably faded as its a document from the 19th Century. I presume like that time he issued a photo of him "at work" with no monitor and keyboard on his desk he thinks his cos-playing a Victorian clerk somehow makes him a far more attractive proposition. I hope to fuck Sixtus rebels in his teens and wanders about sporting a rainbow dyed Mohican a heavily tattooed torso and a pink kilt - just to see the look of horror on his Dad's face
 
bluethrunthru said:
Probably faded as its a document from the 19th Century. I presume like that time he issued a photo of him "at work" with no monitor and keyboard on his desk he thinks his cos-playing a Victorian clerk somehow makes him a far more attractive proposition. I hope to fuck Sixtus rebels in his teens and wanders about sporting a rainbow dyed Mohican a heavily tattooed torso and a pink kilt - just to see the look of horror on his Dad's face
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Are there no prisons?

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Are there no workhouses?
 
It definitely feels like a schism is going to happen.

Ultimately the far right is on the rise all across the world, and the right wingers in the conservative party are probably not going to stick around behind the cover of the one nation tories for too much longer.

I suspect it'll be after the next election.
 
If Sunak follows the Johnson model and sacks his perceived enemies and promotes only loyalists then yes

 
domalino said:
It definitely feels like a schism is going to happen.

Ultimately the far right is on the rise all across the world, and the right wingers in the conservative party are probably not going to stick around behind the cover of the one nation tories for too much longer.

I suspect it'll be after the next election.
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The Tory right won't wander off into the wilderness and start their own party, for the same reason the Labour left won't.
 
The perfect fumble said:
The Tory right won't wander off into the wilderness and start their own party, for the same reason the Labour left won't.
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There’s no need for either to do so. Whoever gets elected can change their mandate at will these days, so campaign as a centralist party and then change leader to get the lunatic fringe in power.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
There’s no need for either to do so. Whoever gets elected can change their mandate at will these days, so campaign as a centralist party and then change leader to get the lunatic fringe in power.
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Are centrists more likely to win power?

Seems a bit of a myth.

Where are the Liberal Democrats?
 
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