The General Election Thread

[inbetween]

Looks like Miliband is gone.

 

[Bluemanc100]

maybe ? i can see andy burnham possibly, but i cant see him winning an election though

Post the Hillsborough enquiry he'll have nothing to offer

I voted Tory but do think that David Milliband would have given myself and others a real choice......

even with david miliband i dont think labour would have won. its the economy thats the winning vote imo and on that the people think the conservatives have done well

That's why I voted for them but if the questions about the SNP had been better handled then who knows....

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Post the Hillsborough enquiry he'll have nothing to offer

I voted Tory but do think that David Milliband would have given myself and others a real choice......

even with david miliband i dont think labour would have won. its the economy thats the winning vote imo and on that the people think the conservatives have done well

That's why I voted for them but if the questions about the SNP had been better handled then who knows....

same here thats why I voted for them swell. even with the snp seats labour wouldn't have won though . I think theres a lot of shy tory voters in the country,

 

[kaz7]

I'm gutted

As a sick and disabled women the tories have already made life more difficult for me with more savage cuts to come

It's very worrying for me

 

[baildon blue]

What a weird election .
The Tories haven't really won but have won by a small majority .
The Labour Party are a complete shambles thanks to Balls and Miliband .
Clegg destroyed the Liberals .
And the Scottish National party have triumphed .
Politics in this country isn't as simple as when Thatcher and Blair were running the country .

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

What a weird election .
The Tories haven't really won but have won by a small majority .
The Labour Party are a complete shambles thanks to Balls and Miliband .
Clegg destroyed the Liberals .
And the Scottish National party have triumphed .
Politics in this country isn't as simple as when Thatcher and Blair were running the country .

The labour party were screwed with or without balls and miliband imo. People dont trust them on big issues such as the economy and immigration based on there last time in government. They did contribute to this terrible labour result though

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Again I will repeat it's virtually unheard of for an incumbent government to be booted out in the first election the reality is that whilst I disagree with some Tory policy they had not reached the point that Brown and Major reached, they are still unpopular in the North of the country and this should be a wake up call to them,

Wake up call? Seeing as the 'closest election in history' has resulted in a Conservative majority, I think it's Labour who need to wake up.
They failed because Ed moved them, or tried to, to the left, to appease the likes of Mcluskey of the unions. Blair realised years ago that this was not the type of politics England favoured, so his new Labour managed to win three on the trot, and even now, some Labour supporters fail to grasp this, still believing a leftist government is what the people want. They never have, and, hopefully, never will.

Great post. Maybe I'm being too simplistic but Labour could still get a lot of voters back onside in the future without having to veer too far to the left. Most people in this country these days are moderately left, centre, or moderately right of centre and have no appetite for politics that is too far to the left or right. Whoever thought Labour could get the populist vote by reverting back to socialist ideals in this day and age is deluded. They picked the wrong Milliband to lead their party in 2010.

Correct. Labour need to find another Tony Blair, and be quick about it, it's no use the usual envy crew saying he was every type of twat imaginable, (although they're quite correct with that), he adopted a centrist stance and attacked the Tories on sleaze and complacency, very successfully.
If they do find such a personality, they may well do much better, if they pick some other quasi-Marxist with no experience of work or real life, they'll be well and truly fucked.

 

[aguero93:20]

What a weird election .
The Tories haven't really won but have won by a small majority .
The Labour Party are a complete shambles thanks to Balls and Miliband .
Clegg destroyed the Liberals .
And the Scottish National party have triumphed .
Politics in this country isn't as simple as when Thatcher and Blair were running the country .

If the lib dems hadn't been so badly washed out I'd say it was a great result for the UK long term, regardless of the winner. A 2 party system might seemingly bring political stability but imo it also leads to political stagnation and a lack of a real choice, with everything being dominated by the same 6-7 figures in each party. Nothing wrong with having 4 or 5 parties with a chance of getting into government in every election, as long as the coalitions formed don't get too stretched and fractious, bringing government to a standstill. It'll be very interesting now to see what the combination of the Tories having to keep their new centre/centre-left vote happy and the SNP's vastly increased influence on decision making brings to UK politics.

Last time I can think of that the UK had a third party of this size not in coalition with the sitting government they were led by Charles Stewart Parnell :)

 

[scotty123]

Farage loses.

Interesting to see what happens to UKIP now, nearly 14% of the vote Nationally and millions have voted for them, we will now find out if UKIP is a one man band

 

[EalingBlue2]

Ah well life is simpler, it is pretty clear the United Kingdom is now just the Kingdom and Great Britain is now just Britain.

Some tough economic times coming with companies like HSBC moving their hq and the inwards investment decisions on hold until after the referendum.

Good luck anyone young, old, poor, disabled or Celtic you are going to need it!

Only silver lining is no SNP in government and UKIP doing crap but sadly I think the union is dead whatever happens and with that England may well leave the EU as little Englanders will probably win the day.

Still you are a lot better off than us Cameron is a hell of a lot better than Abbott and this will have shut up the nasty, little englander right in his party for a while!

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Ah well life is simpler, it is pretty clear the United Kingdom is now just the Kingdom and Great Britain is now just Britain.

Some tough economic times coming with companies like HSBC moving their hq and the inwards investment decisions on hold until after the referendum.

Good luck anyone young, old, poor, disabled or Celtic you are going to need it!

Only silver lining is no SNP in government and UKIP doing crap but sadly I think the union is dead whatever happens and with that England may well leave the EU as little Englanders will probably win the day.

Still you are a lot better off than us Cameron is a hell of a lot better than Abbott and this will have shut up the nasty, little englander right in his party for a while!

In terms of seats they did crap, but in terms of vote they didn't at all. they are the third biggest party with millions of votes and if the voting system was different they would have won a lot of seats .

ukip got 4 million votes and one seat. Labour got 9 million ? and got 200 +

 

[SWP's back]

One thing you can guarantee is that the Tories will not have an overall majority by the end of the parliament. They need to get their most controversial legislation (eg boundary changes and EVEL) passed in the first couple of years. No doubt there will be some Tories demanding that the repeal of the foxhunting ban should be their main priority.

I think it would be a huge mistake for the Tories to assume the result means a ringing endorsement of their welfare and spending policies. For me its been about the SNP and lack of credibity of the Labour leadership. I still think most people probably prefer Labour's economic programme, or at least some elements of it.

Don't agree with any of that.

The people have spoken.

 

[middleton___blue]

Great, another 5 years of misery ahead.

 

[scotty123]

Ah well life is simpler, it is pretty clear the United Kingdom is now just the Kingdom and Great Britain is now just Britain.

Some tough economic times coming with companies like HSBC moving their hq and the inwards investment decisions on hold until after the referendum.

Good luck anyone young, old, poor, disabled or Celtic you are going to need it!

Only silver lining is no SNP in government and UKIP doing crap but sadly I think the union is dead whatever happens and with that England may well leave the EU as little Englanders will probably win the day.

Still you are a lot better off than us Cameron is a hell of a lot better than Abbott and this will have shut up the nasty, little englander right in his party for a while!

In terms of seats they did crap, but in terms of vote they didn't at all. they are the third biggest party with millions of votes and if the voting system was different they would have won a lot of seats .

2nd in over 130 seats

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Ah well life is simpler, it is pretty clear the United Kingdom is now just the Kingdom and Great Britain is now just Britain.

Some tough economic times coming with companies like HSBC moving their hq and the inwards investment decisions on hold until after the referendum.

Good luck anyone young, old, poor, disabled or Celtic you are going to need it!

Only silver lining is no SNP in government and UKIP doing crap but sadly I think the union is dead whatever happens and with that England may well leave the EU as little Englanders will probably win the day.

Still you are a lot better off than us Cameron is a hell of a lot better than Abbott and this will have shut up the nasty, little englander right in his party for a while!

If the union dies it will be the doing of the 'Little Scotlanders' but hey-ho.
Abbott looks ok to me and others, and Australia doesn't look to be in the shit by any stretch.
It is still 'Great' Britain, despite what you say, and the 'Great' bit refers to its' physical geography, not how brilliant it is.

 

[SWP's back]

Ah well life is simpler, it is pretty clear the United Kingdom is now just the Kingdom and Great Britain is now just Britain.

Some tough economic times coming with companies like HSBC moving their hq and the inwards investment decisions on hold until after the referendum.

Good luck anyone young, old, poor, disabled or Celtic you are going to need it!

Only silver lining is no SNP in government and UKIP doing crap but sadly I think the union is dead whatever happens and with that England may well leave the EU as little Englanders will probably win the day.

Still you are a lot better off than us Cameron is a hell of a lot better than Abbott and this will have shut up the nasty, little englander right in his party for a while!

You never fail to post bollocks. It's quite amazing really.

UKIP did crap? With two million more votes than the SNP.

I'd love to see evidence of these companies moving before a referendum.

And you can blame Labour for breaking up the union. Scotland was its bitch.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Ah well life is simpler, it is pretty clear the United Kingdom is now just the Kingdom and Great Britain is now just Britain.

Some tough economic times coming with companies like HSBC moving their hq and the inwards investment decisions on hold until after the referendum.

Good luck anyone young, old, poor, disabled or Celtic you are going to need it!

Only silver lining is no SNP in government and UKIP doing crap but sadly I think the union is dead whatever happens and with that England may well leave the EU as little Englanders will probably win the day.

Still you are a lot better off than us Cameron is a hell of a lot better than Abbott and this will have shut up the nasty, little englander right in his party for a while!

In terms of seats they did crap, but in terms of vote they didn't at all. they are the third biggest party with millions of votes and if the voting system was different they would have won a lot of seats .

2nd in over 130 seats

exactly. 4 million votes and the 3 rd biggest party as well, considering they were no where a few years ago it isn't bad.

 

[Damocles]

Not sure if I missed something with a lie-in this morning but have Scotland seceded over night?

 

[dickie davies]

The people have spoken.

Only 1 in 4 of the electorate voted for Dave

I know it's the way the system works, but it's still quite mind boggling

 

[scotty123]

Farage has stood down