The General Election Thread

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cibaman said:
Chancy Termites said:
cibaman said:
So how would the head to heads work? 90 mins of Miliband just answering questions without any follow up interrogation?

Well the 4 way debate without Cameron would be Miliband, Clegg and Farage; the 7 without Cameron would also include Bennett, Sturgeon and whoever the Plaid person is.

What I'm saying is that in either case, Miliband will leg it and hide rather than face a debate with Farage. He's had it easy until now as he hasn't had to say so due to the focus being on Cameron. Let's see what happens next anyway.

But if Milliband legged it he wouldnt then be able to turn up for the one that's supposed be a head to head between him and Cameron would he?

Hasn't Cameron already refused that one? It's Farage the pair of them are scared of and I repeat the accusation I made on one thread or other on here a couple of months ago: I believe that Cameron and Miliband are working together to try to keep Farage out of all the debates.
 
worsleyweb said:
I'd make the bastads work 50 hours for benefits. My aunty has been on the sick for 30 years and has absolutely fuck all wrong with her. She has had her council tax paid for 30 years and swans off to charity shops buying shit every day. Actually spends 6 weeks in the summer in Devon in a caravan and is one of those knobheads who puts her status on facebook showing what a great life she has! One last week of her having cocktails in camel gobs restaraunt! I am physically exhausted by Friday night. It makes me sick - it's a good job I am not pm. I would make Alf garnet look like Damocles.

Serious question - what jobs would you have them do? Whose place would they take? Should they work in "state" jobs? Perhaps they could do your wifes job instead of her, so your wife would have to compete by working for less than benefits. Or they could take the jobs that your kid have/want so they have to work for free on internships for a couple of years before they get paid anthing, in order to compete. Would you employ people who you think don't want to work if you ran a company, if your pension and mortgage depended on it?

It might work in a Peter Lilley speech to the blue rinsed faithful, but thats' all it's good for - it's empty rhetoric.
 
blueish swede said:
worsleyweb said:
I'd make the bastads work 50 hours for benefits. My aunty has been on the sick for 30 years and has absolutely fuck all wrong with her. She has had her council tax paid for 30 years and swans off to charity shops buying shit every day. Actually spends 6 weeks in the summer in Devon in a caravan and is one of those knobheads who puts her status on facebook showing what a great life she has! One last week of her having cocktails in camel gobs restaraunt! I am physically exhausted by Friday night. It makes me sick - it's a good job I am not pm. I would make Alf garnet look like Damocles.

Serious question - what jobs would you have them do? Whose place would they take? Should they work in "state" jobs? Perhaps they could do your wifes job instead of her, so your wife would have to compete by working for less than benefits. Or they could take the jobs that your kid have/want so they have to work for free on internships for a couple of years before they get paid anthing, in order to compete. Would you employ people who you think don't want to work if you ran a company, if your pension and mortgage depended on it?

It might work in a Peter Lilley speech to the blue rinsed faithful, but thats' all it's good for - it's empty rhetoric.
A complete and utter example of warped logic, and an apology for idle twats. The unemployed must remain unemployed, to ensure that those presently employed don't have anybody competing for their jobs.
 
Don't care what jobs they do. Lick windows for all I care. Just stop lazy bastads sit at home all day.
 
worsleyweb said:
Don't care what jobs they do. Lick windows for all I care. Just stop lazy bastads sit at home all day.

to me if they get 80 quid a week for doing jack shit i would make them doing say 10 hours of work in the community. paint a fence round the park, shit like that. no work no money. sponging fucks.
 
de niro said:
worsleyweb said:
Don't care what jobs they do. Lick windows for all I care. Just stop lazy bastads sit at home all day.

to me if they get 80 quid a week for doing jack shit i would make them doing say 10 hours of work in the community. paint a fence round the park, shit like that. no work no money. sponging fucks.
Trouble is they wouldn't do it half of them are working on knock anyway take their benefits away they go on the rob.locking them up costs even more.
 
worsleyweb said:
chabal said:
worsleyweb said:
You have posted some incredibly good common sense posts recently. And stuck to your guns against the left wing onslaught. Your post above just sums it up with regard to the election. Would we want Ed Miliband representing this country across the Globe? Of course not.

And here's me thinking the Chuckle Brothers had retired.

To me, to you...............

Are you referring to the Millibands?

They can't be the Clever Milliband has been banished hasn't he?
 
whp.blue said:
worsleyweb said:
chabal said:
And here's me thinking the Chuckle Brothers had retired.

To me, to you...............

Are you referring to the Millibands?

They can't be the Clever Milliband has been banished hasn't he?

He looks in a different league to this dope
 
I've noticed quite a few UKIP signs over the past few days up here in Lancashire and I've already had some of their leaflets through
the letterbox. Nothing from anyone else yet.

It will be interesting to how they perform in a general election.

I would consider myself a Tory politically but I'm not beholden to any party. I will attempt to find out what I can about the candidates standing
in my constituency and judge them accordingly. I would be more likely to support, for example, a local person with a history of service to the community who is standing for Labour, than a Tory candidate who has been parachuted in and whose primary concern is the advancement of their own political career.

I'm no longer interested in the media campaign / party line / political attacks or general Westminster bollocks.

Would those on here with strong political views be willing to give a good local person a chance, even if they stand for a political party you would not
usually support?
 
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de niro said:
worsleyweb said:
whp.blue said:
They can't be the Clever Milliband has been banished hasn't he?

He looks in a different league to this dope

Its "policies" that will fuck them over,not Ed.
With the snp courting a deal with labour,its looking like a painful few years being held to ransom by the jocks,cant see any other outcome especially with bullingdon dave about to be replaced by an empty chair...this will be the biggest political own goal since kinnocks victory lap.
 
Evo49 said:
I've noticed quite a few UKIP signs over the past few days up here in Lancashire and I've already had some of their leaflets through
the letterbox. Nothing from anyone else yet.

It will be interesting to how they perform in a general ele

I would consider myself a Tory politically but I'm not beholden to any party. I will attempt to find out what I can about the candidates standing
in my constituency and judge them accordingly. I would be more likely to support, for example, a local person with a history of service to the community who is standing for Labour, than a Tory candidate who has been parachuted in and whose primary concern is the advancement of their own political career.

I'm no longer interested in the media campaign / party line / political attacks or general Westminster bollocks.

Would those on here with strong political views be willing to give a good local person a chance, even if they stand for a political party you would not
usually support?
Ideally yes but an mp will always tow the party line and the whips dictate how and when they vote. Id imagine thw big 2 tend to parachute candidates in more often but it doesnt seem to matter?
Ukip are a bye-election party,they will barely cause a ripple in the ge as tory voters return to the fold,add to that the fact they are infested by racist wankers and led by a ra ra,who in their right mind would vote for them?
 
blue cigar said:
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de niro said:
worsleyweb said:
He looks in a different league to this dope

Its "policies" that will fuck them over,not Ed.
With the snp courting a deal with labour,its looking like a painful few years being held to ransom by the jocks,cant see any other outcome especially with bullingdon dave about to be replaced by an empty chair...this will be the biggest political own goal since kinnocks victory lap.

They're only going through the motions of courting a deal with Labour, to nullify the "vote SNP get Cameron" accusation that Scottish Labour will make.

The SNP are only bothered about laying the groundwork for the next referendum. That will be based on the argument that all of the Westminister parties have reneged on "The Vow". They cant make that argument if they've been in partnership with any party. And it probably suits the SNP cause for the Tories to be in power, to stir up more nationalism.

They'll go into the election suggesting they'll do a deal with Labour but then find a reason eg Trident to scupper it afterwards.
 
No i dont agree. The snp will force labour into a commitment,i dont see a tory govt allowing another referendum anytime soon. It doesnt matter how much trouble they create in scotland,they still need a uk govt to sanction another referendum,the fact they will have 50+ mp's means nothing unless they can manipulate as part of a coalition. Sturgeon has already stated they will not vote against trident and the only reason salmond is standing is to bully labour in the commons. I cant abide the anti-english twats.
 
cibaman said:
blue cigar said:
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de niro said:
Its "policies" that will fuck them over,not Ed.
With the snp courting a deal with labour,its looking like a painful few years being held to ransom by the jocks,cant see any other outcome especially with bullingdon dave about to be replaced by an empty chair...this will be the biggest political own goal since kinnocks victory lap.

They're only going through the motions of courting a deal with Labour, to nullify the "vote SNP get Cameron" accusation that Scottish Labour will make.

The SNP are only bothered about laying the groundwork for the next referendum. That will be based on the argument that all of the Westminister parties have reneged on "The Vow". They cant make that argument if they've been in partnership with any party. And it probably suits the SNP cause for the Tories to be in power, to stir up more nationalism.

They'll go into the election suggesting they'll do a deal with Labour but then find a reason eg Trident to scupper it afterwards.

It's all rather worrying, I won't be very happy to have them having any say in the way I am governed, not can I imagine many others, I wonder is if the SNP's sums still add up with the low price of oil
 
blue cigar said:
Evo49 said:
I've noticed quite a few UKIP signs over the past few days up here in Lancashire and I've already had some of their leaflets through
the letterbox. Nothing from anyone else yet.

It will be interesting to how they perform in a general ele

I would consider myself a Tory politically but I'm not beholden to any party. I will attempt to find out what I can about the candidates standing
in my constituency and judge them accordingly. I would be more likely to support, for example, a local person with a history of service to the community who is standing for Labour, than a Tory candidate who has been parachuted in and whose primary concern is the advancement of their own political career.

I'm no longer interested in the media campaign / party line / political attacks or general Westminster bollocks.

Would those on here with strong political views be willing to give a good local person a chance, even if they stand for a political party you would not
usually support?
Ideally yes but an mp will always tow the party line and the whips dictate how and when they vote. Id imagine thw big 2 tend to parachute candidates in more often but it doesnt seem to matter?
Ukip are a bye-election party,they will barely cause a ripple in the ge as tory voters return to the fold,add to that the fact they are infested by racist wankers and led by a ra ra,who in their right mind would vote for them?

What's that? "Dear Chancy Termites, please post a link from the mainstream media or BBC to that racist Labour councillor"? Id love to but of course absolutely none of them reported it in any way whatsoever.
 
Chancy Termites said:
blue cigar said:
Evo49 said:
I've noticed quite a few UKIP signs over the past few days up here in Lancashire and I've already had some of their leaflets through
the letterbox. Nothing from anyone else yet.

It will be interesting to how they perform in a general ele

I would consider myself a Tory politically but I'm not beholden to any party. I will attempt to find out what I can about the candidates standing
in my constituency and judge them accordingly. I would be more likely to support, for example, a local person with a history of service to the community who is standing for Labour, than a Tory candidate who has been parachuted in and whose primary concern is the advancement of their own political career.

I'm no longer interested in the media campaign / party line / political attacks or general Westminster bollocks.

Would those on here with strong political views be willing to give a good local person a chance, even if they stand for a political party you would not
usually support?
Ideally yes but an mp will always tow the party line and the whips dictate how and when they vote. Id imagine thw big 2 tend to parachute candidates in more often but it doesnt seem to matter?
Ukip are a bye-election party,they will barely cause a ripple in the ge as tory voters return to the fold,add to that the fact they are infested by racist wankers and led by a ra ra,who in their right mind would vote for them?

What's that? "Dear Chancy Termites, please post a link from the mainstream media or BBC to that racist Labour councillor"? Id love to but of course absolutely none of them reported it in any way whatsoever.
Yep lets all post loads of links that nobody reads....or lets use our own means to determine that ukip are a racist party,all leads to the same conclusion. Shall i post a link to the protests against ukip?jeez,why would anyone protest against ukip??? A little tip,dont try and defend the indefensible,it amuses me but makes you look silly chancey lad.
 
blue cigar said:
No i dont agree. The snp will force labour into a commitment,i dont see a tory govt allowing another referendum anytime soon. It doesnt matter how much trouble they create in scotland,they still need a uk govt to sanction another referendum,the fact they will have 50+ mp's means nothing unless they can manipulate as part of a coalition. Sturgeon has already stated they will not vote against trident and the only reason salmond is standing is to bully labour in the commons. I cant abide the anti-english twats.

If the SNP are in control of the Scottish parliament, if the vast majority of MPs in Scotland are Nats and if the SNP are in partnership with the UK government, who do they blame for Scotland's problems?
 
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