The General Election Thread

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de niro said:
i can't wait for May now. its like waiting for the cup final and we are playing the rags in the final. we'll destroy the plastic loony left.

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Can the Tories win an overall majority?.....

No. Amid all the uncertainties surrounding this election, there is one safe bet – that the Conservatives will not gain a majority, i.e. win 326 seats. They didn’t manage it last time and that was before the rise of Ukip. Recent opinion polls suggest they will be lucky to win 260 seats.

So, will Cameron form a second coalition with the Lib Dems?....

At the moment, Cameron’s chances don’t look good. Lord Ashcroft’s latest polling in marginal seats suggests Labour are on course to be the biggest party.
 
An extract from the documentary maker Adam Curtis shown during Charlie Brookers 2014 Wipe.

A provoking watch...

It addresses domestic issues from about 2 minutes in

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM[/video]
 
The perfect fumble said:
de niro said:
i can't wait for May now. its like waiting for the cup final and we are playing the rags in the final. we'll destroy the plastic loony left.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/61234/general-election-2015-where-do-things-stand-with-6-months-to-go" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/61234 ... nths-to-go</a>

Can the Tories win an overall majority?.....

No. Amid all the uncertainties surrounding this election, there is one safe bet – that the Conservatives will not gain a majority, i.e. win 326 seats. They didn’t manage it last time and that was before the rise of Ukip. Recent opinion polls suggest they will be lucky to win 260 seats.

So, will Cameron form a second coalition with the Lib Dems?....

At the moment, Cameron’s chances don’t look good. Lord Ashcroft’s latest polling in marginal seats suggests Labour are on course to be the biggest party.

not sure there are enough workshy and cadgers in britain for this to happen.
 
de niro said:
The perfect fumble said:
de niro said:
i can't wait for May now. its like waiting for the cup final and we are playing the rags in the final. we'll destroy the plastic loony left.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/61234/general-election-2015-where-do-things-stand-with-6-months-to-go" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/61234 ... nths-to-go</a>

Can the Tories win an overall majority?.....

No. Amid all the uncertainties surrounding this election, there is one safe bet – that the Conservatives will not gain a majority, i.e. win 326 seats. They didn’t manage it last time and that was before the rise of Ukip. Recent opinion polls suggest they will be lucky to win 260 seats.

So, will Cameron form a second coalition with the Lib Dems?....

At the moment, Cameron’s chances don’t look good. Lord Ashcroft’s latest polling in marginal seats suggests Labour are on course to be the biggest party.

not sure there are enough workshy and cadgers in britain for this to happen.

President Mitt Romney thought the same in the States.
 
de niro said:
The perfect fumble said:
de niro said:
i can't wait for May now. its like waiting for the cup final and we are playing the rags in the final. we'll destroy the plastic loony left.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/61234/general-election-2015-where-do-things-stand-with-6-months-to-go" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/61234 ... nths-to-go</a>

Can the Tories win an overall majority?.....

No. Amid all the uncertainties surrounding this election, there is one safe bet – that the Conservatives will not gain a majority, i.e. win 326 seats. They didn’t manage it last time and that was before the rise of Ukip. Recent opinion polls suggest they will be lucky to win 260 seats.

So, will Cameron form a second coalition with the Lib Dems?....

At the moment, Cameron’s chances don’t look good. Lord Ashcroft’s latest polling in marginal seats suggests Labour are on course to be the biggest party.

not sure there are enough workshy and cadgers in britain for this to happen.
Don't be harsh on yourself mate, you can make it happen.
 
I once read a description of Labour voters from a Labour MP - they are mostly unheard and unseen, but come election day they descend like a mist and then they're gone.

No main stream media outlet speaks for them, no serious newspaper gives them voice, consequently their numbers are often underestimated.

Day after day the media hammer Ed Miliband, and whether you agree with it or not and his personal rating is terrible, Labours lead wobbles, drops a point here and there but basically holds, Labour needs 36% to win and it's achievable. The Tories, however, need 40% to win, they got 36% in 2010, they're between 28% and 32% now (no party has ever increased their popularity in office) and no Tory party has had to face a UKIP strength party to its right.

The figures are not just tough for the Tories, they're appalling, it is impossible to imagine them, in any scenario, getting an overall majority, that's why Hague has gone off to write and so many Tory MPs are standing down.

The Tories couldn't win a majority against a deeply unpopular Labour government led by Gordon Brown, they had everything going for them but still fell short, this time the only thing they've got is Ed's unpopularity that's why they keep plugging away at it, but poll after poll show its not enough. Defenders of the Tories say the polls narrow as the election looms and they do, but not for the Tories.

In a recent poll 40% of the electorate say they would never vote Tory, only 25% say the same for the Labour, in the poll tightening last stretch Labour swims in a deeper and wider pool. Demographics are doing for the Tories what it's doing for the Republicans in the States, huge swathes of the country are no go areas and increasingly whole age groups, the Tories know this, that's why they're playing to their core vote, they know it's over, for them it's not storming to victory time, it's just hanging on to what they can time.
 
Len Rum said:
Chancy Termites said:
Len Rum said:
I don't often agree with Cam but funnily enough I do on this one. If UKIP deserve a place at the debate, why not the Greens? ( and what about the Nationalists ,but that's another debate).
But from a political and PR perspective this is a disaster for the Tories and Red Ed has seized the opportunity to accuse Cam of running scared.
Normally the Tories are so much better than Labour at this PR kind of thing.

I don't believe him. His real reason for avoiding the debates is that he's scared of Nigel Farage but of course he can't admit to that. Miliband is scared of Farage too but he can't admit it either. However, he can claim that there's no point taking part if Cameron doesn't. So in this way Cameron and Miliband can work together to duck out and hide.

I have the utmost respect for Clegg for actually being prepared to debate with Farage last year. You could call it poitical suicide as he and his policies were taken to pieces by Farage but at least he was man enough to die with his boots on, while Cameron and Miliband shat their knickers and hid themselves away.
You're making an assumption regarding Ed that he will claim there is no point in taking part if Cam doesn't. He certainly won't . These debates are crucial to Ed for him to have any chance of winning. If Cam's not there all the better , he can make big political capital in Dave running scared.
But there's no assumption about Cam. He's already took a big PR risk here of being seen to be weak.
Can you imagine if Ed had refused to participate because of the non involvement of the Greens. He would have been slagged off from pillar to post as being weak and indecisive but because it's call me Dave the pro Tory media will remain silent and fall in line.

Miliband could have chosen to join the debate with Clegg and Farage last year, why did he cop out then? Fear is the only reason that stacks up to me.
 
Some great points there.
The uk has not returned a toff govt since 1992, it would take a major sea change for that to alter especially when you factor in ukip and the disasterous policies of this govt that has led to the current state...foodbanks in britain in 2015...and people think cameron has done a good job!
 
blue cigar said:
Some great points there.
The uk has not returned a toff govt since 1992, it would take a major sea change for that to alter especially when you factor in ukip and the disasterous policies of this govt that has led to the current state...foodbanks in britain in 2015...and people think cameron has done a good job!

Lol. Keep digging.
 
Chancy Termites said:
Len Rum said:
Chancy Termites said:
I don't believe him. His real reason for avoiding the debates is that he's scared of Nigel Farage but of course he can't admit to that. Miliband is scared of Farage too but he can't admit it either. However, he can claim that there's no point taking part if Cameron doesn't. So in this way Cameron and Miliband can work together to duck out and hide.

I have the utmost respect for Clegg for actually being prepared to debate with Farage last year. You could call it poitical suicide as he and his policies were taken to pieces by Farage but at least he was man enough to die with his boots on, while Cameron and Miliband shat their knickers and hid themselves away.
You're making an assumption regarding Ed that he will claim there is no point in taking part if Cam doesn't. He certainly won't . These debates are crucial to Ed for him to have any chance of winning. If Cam's not there all the better , he can make big political capital in Dave running scared.
But there's no assumption about Cam. He's already took a big PR risk here of being seen to be weak.
Can you imagine if Ed had refused to participate because of the non involvement of the Greens. He would have been slagged off from pillar to post as being weak and indecisive but because it's call me Dave the pro Tory media will remain silent and fall in line.

Miliband could have chosen to join the debate with Clegg and Farage last year, why did he cop out then? Fear is the only reason that stacks up to me.
Yeah maybe Ed shouldn't have copped out last year, he's not good at taking political advantage in certain situations.
However that's in the past and this time he won't make the same mistake.
Dave has made a big political error here.
 
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