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Chancy Termites said:
blue cigar said:
worsleyweb said:
Times have never been harder?? Makes me laugh - go in the trafford centre any day - you can hardly move.
Go to a foodbank on any day-you can hardly move.....not sure what camerons legacy will be,the rise of the foodbanks or the rise of zero hours contracts? But yeh,vote tory if your a selfish bastard,the bullingdon boys are the ones for you

Labour MPs employing staff on zero-hours contracts
https://www.politicshome.com/econom...bour-mps-employing-staff-zero-hours-contracts
As i said,the legacy of the tory toffs,do keep up old boy..dont bother with links,i dont read them.
 
blue cigar said:
Chancy Termites said:
blue cigar said:
Go to a foodbank on any day-you can hardly move.....not sure what camerons legacy will be,the rise of the foodbanks or the rise of zero hours contracts? But yeh,vote tory if your a selfish bastard,the bullingdon boys are the ones for you

Labour MPs employing staff on zero-hours contracts
https://www.politicshome.com/econom...bour-mps-employing-staff-zero-hours-contracts
As i said,the legacy of the tory toffs,do keep up old boy..dont bother with links,i dont read them.

Err, you do realise the number of zero hours contracts grew massively under the last Labour government don't you? I don't think you can do.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-hour_contract#United_Kingdom
in the hotels and restaurants sector, 19% of all workplaces (up from 4% in 2004)
in the health sector, 13% (up from 7%)
in the education sector, 10% (up from 1%)
 
de niro said:
Len Rum said:
Noticeable absence of our right wing brethren coming on to defend Dave's refusal to take on Ed in the one to one debates.
Ronald the Representative,dn,foxy etc. Where r u? Let's be 'avin you!

we are all too busy running a business, working late and taking on extra staff due to a boom in sales. funny that.
Thank God for that what is it Shipbuilding, Aircraft manufacture,Heavy Engineering or Armaments manufacture we need you to bring in the foreign currency to balance the books and employ high skilled workers on top wages.
 
Ronnie the Rep said:
law74 said:
smudgedj said:
Perhaps they are still at work.
they should get out of their beds earlier and start sooner, start at 7 & avoid the congestion.



Hello boys, sorry I'm late, been working my plums off today earning enough to pay for the layabouts ;-)

I think the whole debate thing is a waste of time. I think we need to find a better way of getting policies across than providing YouTube clips. Look at what happened last time. Clegg presented the best and got seats out of it and then reneged on everything he said. What's the point in that?
At least he didn't promise the all sharing all caring 'Big Society' or 'Vote Lib Dem vote Green ' or not to raise VAT.
 
blue cigar said:
worsleyweb said:
law74 said:
I certainly am not a Labour voter, and when I ask the tory apologists on here to explain how, if the ecomony is doing so well, revenue collected by tax and NI contributions is over £30 billion less than estimated instead of either explaining the reasons or accepting that for many people times have never been harder, they decide to resort to the petty insult of the defeated

Times have never been harder?? Makes me laugh - go in the trafford centre any day - you can hardly move.
Go to a foodbank on any day-you can hardly move.....not sure what camerons legacy will be,the rise of the foodbanks or the rise of zero hours contracts? But yeh,vote tory if your a selfish bastard,the bullingdon boys are the ones for you

Any household that needs to use a Foodbank should be given a morbidly obese person to look after , two problems solved.
 
i kne albert davy said:
de niro said:
Len Rum said:
Noticeable absence of our right wing brethren coming on to defend Dave's refusal to take on Ed in the one to one debates.
Ronald the Representative,dn,foxy etc. Where r u? Let's be 'avin you!

we are all too busy running a business, working late and taking on extra staff due to a boom in sales. funny that.
Thank God for that what is it Shipbuilding, Aircraft manufacture,Heavy Engineering or Armaments manufacture we need you to bring in the foreign currency to balance the books and employ high skilled workers on top wages.

work is work smart arse.
 
Chancy Termites said:
blue cigar said:
Chancy Termites said:
As i said,the legacy of the tory toffs,do keep up old boy..dont bother with links,i dont read them.

Err, you do realise the number of zero hours contracts grew massively under the last Labour government don't you? I don't think you can do.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-hour_contract#United_Kingdom
in the hotels and restaurants sector, 19% of all workplaces (up from 4% in 2004)
in the health sector, 13% (up from 7%)
in the education sector, 10% (up from 1%)
Err,who is the party associated most with the rise of zero hour contracts and why do you think that is? A clue....bullingdon boys.
Christ,you'll be telling me ukip are not racist next!!
 
I love how people misinterpret "zero hours contracts" and is something they nothing about. They actually believe the bullshit spouted by the Guardian and Labour MPs demonising "zero hours" work. These contracts were rife under the Labour government, it's not a new concept what so ever.

I managed a team where half were on zero hours contracts and it worked great, it was a win win situation. Being busy only for the summer months meant it was stupid to have a huge team for the whole duration. A good proportion of the staff were students who were able to earn a substantial amount during their summer. Other members of staff treated this as a second job, a temporary solution.

My dad works on a zero hour contract and it works great for him, some weeks he wants to work and has the opportunity to, other weeks he wants to rest and look after the grandkids. Some days he wants to work but the opportunity isn't there. It's Adhoc.
 
blue cigar said:
Chancy Termites said:
blue cigar said:
As i said,the legacy of the tory toffs,do keep up old boy..dont bother with links,i dont read them.

Err, you do realise the number of zero hours contracts grew massively under the last Labour government don't you? I don't think you can do.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-hour_contract#United_Kingdom
in the hotels and restaurants sector, 19% of all workplaces (up from 4% in 2004)
in the health sector, 13% (up from 7%)
in the education sector, 10% (up from 1%)
Err,who is the party associated most with the rise of zero hour contracts and why do you think that is? A clue....bullingdon boys.
Christ,you'll be telling me ukip are not racist next!!

Clearly in your perception, the party most associated with zero houris contracts is the Conservatives. In actual fact though, the party in charge when the current legislation was made and under whose rule they grew the most, is Labour.

UKIP and the Greens are the only parties going into the next election without specifically racist immigration policies, although I believe the others are only guilty of accidental racism rather than deliberate.
 
blue cigar said:
Chancy Termites said:
blue cigar said:
As i said,the legacy of the tory toffs,do keep up old boy..dont bother with links,i dont read them.

Err, you do realise the number of zero hours contracts grew massively under the last Labour government don't you? I don't think you can do.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-hour_contract#United_Kingdom
in the hotels and restaurants sector, 19% of all workplaces (up from 4% in 2004)
in the health sector, 13% (up from 7%)
in the education sector, 10% (up from 1%)
Err,who is the party associated most with the rise of zero hour contracts and why do you think that is? A clue....bullingdon boys.
Christ,you'll be telling me ukip are not racist next!!


You really don't help your argument with all this Bullingdon Boys nonsense. Do you really think all Conservative voters are ex public school boys wearing top hats? There are as many in the Labour Party
 
Ronnie the Rep said:
blue cigar said:
Chancy Termites said:
Err, you do realise the number of zero hours contracts grew massively under the last Labour government don't you? I don't think you can do.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-hour_contract#United_Kingdom
Err,who is the party associated most with the rise of zero hour contracts and why do you think that is? A clue....bullingdon boys.
Christ,you'll be telling me ukip are not racist next!!


You really don't help your argument with all this Bullingdon Boys nonsense. Do you really think all Conservative voters are ex public school boys wearing top hats? There are as many in the Labour Party

There's elitism across the board in British politics.

Almost a third of new parliamentary candidates with a reasonable chance of winning seats in the general election were privately educated and one in five attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, according to research published on Thursday.

A report from the educational charity the Sutton Trust, Parliamentary Privilege, analyses the backgrounds of those likely to become members of parliament for the first time in May’s general election and finds they are “unlikely to reflect any more social diversity than the current crop of MPs”.

The educational backgrounds varied across the political parties, but none was close to the national average. Of the likely new MPs, 31% attended private schools, compared with 7% of the adult population, and 19% attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, compared with 1% of the adult population.

Why Ed Miliband needs to widen Labour’s MP selection pool
Diane Abbott
Read more
Among Conservative candidates, 49% were found to have been privately educated, compared with 19% of Labour candidates and 36% of Ukip candidates. In the current parliament, 33% of MPs went to independent schools – 52% of Conservative MPs, 10% of Labour MPs and 41% of Liberal Democrat MPs – meaning the next parliament is likely to see a very small reduction in the number of privately educated members.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/05/private-school-oxford-cambridge-educations-over-represented-parliamentary-candidates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... candidates</a>
 
foxy said:
Ronnie the Rep said:
blue cigar said:
Err,who is the party associated most with the rise of zero hour contracts and why do you think that is? A clue....bullingdon boys.
Christ,you'll be telling me ukip are not racist next!!


You really don't help your argument with all this Bullingdon Boys nonsense. Do you really think all Conservative voters are ex public school boys wearing top hats? There are as many in the Labour Party

There's elitism across the board in British politics.

Almost a third of new parliamentary candidates with a reasonable chance of winning seats in the general election were privately educated and one in five attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, according to research published on Thursday.

A report from the educational charity the Sutton Trust, Parliamentary Privilege, analyses the backgrounds of those likely to become members of parliament for the first time in May’s general election and finds they are “unlikely to reflect any more social diversity than the current crop of MPs”.

The educational backgrounds varied across the political parties, but none was close to the national average. Of the likely new MPs, 31% attended private schools, compared with 7% of the adult population, and 19% attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, compared with 1% of the adult population.

Why Ed Miliband needs to widen Labour’s MP selection pool
Diane Abbott
Read more
Among Conservative candidates, 49% were found to have been privately educated, compared with 19% of Labour candidates and 36% of Ukip candidates. In the current parliament, 33% of MPs went to independent schools – 52% of Conservative MPs, 10% of Labour MPs and 41% of Liberal Democrat MPs – meaning the next parliament is likely to see a very small reduction in the number of privately educated members.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/05/private-school-oxford-cambridge-educations-over-represented-parliamentary-candidates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... candidates</a>
No,instead of widening the scope to include all public education, stick to the point,how many non tories were in the super elite bullingdon club? You have george,dave and boris in their tailcoats posing proudly,says everything about the current tory crop. We need more skinners and benns in the house,not more camerons and johnsons.
 
blue cigar said:
foxy said:
Ronnie the Rep said:
You really don't help your argument with all this Bullingdon Boys nonsense. Do you really think all Conservative voters are ex public school boys wearing top hats? There are as many in the Labour Party

There's elitism across the board in British politics.

Almost a third of new parliamentary candidates with a reasonable chance of winning seats in the general election were privately educated and one in five attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, according to research published on Thursday.

A report from the educational charity the Sutton Trust, Parliamentary Privilege, analyses the backgrounds of those likely to become members of parliament for the first time in May’s general election and finds they are “unlikely to reflect any more social diversity than the current crop of MPs”.

The educational backgrounds varied across the political parties, but none was close to the national average. Of the likely new MPs, 31% attended private schools, compared with 7% of the adult population, and 19% attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, compared with 1% of the adult population.

Why Ed Miliband needs to widen Labour’s MP selection pool
Diane Abbott
Read more
Among Conservative candidates, 49% were found to have been privately educated, compared with 19% of Labour candidates and 36% of Ukip candidates. In the current parliament, 33% of MPs went to independent schools – 52% of Conservative MPs, 10% of Labour MPs and 41% of Liberal Democrat MPs – meaning the next parliament is likely to see a very small reduction in the number of privately educated members.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/05/private-school-oxford-cambridge-educations-over-represented-parliamentary-candidates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... candidates</a>
No,instead of widening the scope to include all public education, stick to the point,how many non tories were in the super elite bullingdon club? You have george,dave and boris in their tailcoats posing proudly,says everything about the current tory crop. We need more skinners and benns in the house,not more camerons and johnsons.

Wow, 2 members of government and a Mayor (who's done a tremendous job). What's your point? Like a typical jealous Labourite you troll those who are at the top rather than help people to try and get there.
 
Classic generalisation from a tory...worry about those at the top and bollox to the rest,yep,you should vote tory no question. Idont begrudge people earning what they can,i begrudge selfish bastards ignoring the needy and assuming they have all chosen that path..quite a few selfish bastards on here.
 
Heard a line from Stewart Lee the other day which I thought funny:

In the 1980s the Labour Party believed that the rich, who did not deserve to be rich, should help out the poor, who did not deserve to be poor. Meanwhile the Tories believed that the poor, who did deserve to be poor should not be helped by the rich who did deserve to be rich. And that is the 1980s explained. Very different from today isn't it? Where today both major parties believe that the poor should be tied up in a binbag and thrown into the canal. The Tories to be fair at least have the decency to look like they mean that. The Labour party on the other hand when announcing its welfare cuts, they did so with all of the confidence of a dog running away from its own farts.

Made me chortle.
 
blue cigar said:
Classic generalisation from a tory...worry about those at the top and bollox to the rest,yep,you should vote tory no question. Idont begrudge people earning what they can,i begrudge selfish bastards ignoring the needy and assuming they have all chosen that path..quite a few selfish bastards on here.


Are you a student or an SNP worker?
 
Damocles said:
Heard a line from Stewart Lee the other day which I thought funny:

In the 1980s the Labour Party believed that the rich, who did not deserve to be rich, should help out the poor, who did not deserve to be poor. Meanwhile the Tories believed that the poor, who did deserve to be poor should not be helped by the rich who did deserve to be rich. And that is the 1980s explained. Very different from today isn't it? Where today both major parties believe that the poor should be tied up in a binbag and thrown into the canal. The Tories to be fair at least have the decency to look like they mean that. The Labour party on the other hand when announcing its welfare cuts, they did so with all of the confidence of a dog running away from its own farts.

Made me chortle.

Stewart Lee and anything he makes comedy wise has a touch of brilliance to it.
And the quote you mention is hilarious because it has a ring of truth to it.
The real losers here are the poor,we should be asking what can we do for them rather than what can we do them for.
 
Ronnie the Rep said:
blue cigar said:
Classic generalisation from a tory...worry about those at the top and bollox to the rest,yep,you should vote tory no question. Idont begrudge people earning what they can,i begrudge selfish bastards ignoring the needy and assuming they have all chosen that path..quite a few selfish bastards on here.


Are you a student or an SNP worker?[/quote Im a tory voter,i always think i know best,dont care about anyone else and like to look down my nose.....actually ronnie,you are probably borderline ukip?
 
blue cigar said:
foxy said:
Ronnie the Rep said:
You really don't help your argument with all this Bullingdon Boys nonsense. Do you really think all Conservative voters are ex public school boys wearing top hats? There are as many in the Labour Party

There's elitism across the board in British politics.

Almost a third of new parliamentary candidates with a reasonable chance of winning seats in the general election were privately educated and one in five attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, according to research published on Thursday.

A report from the educational charity the Sutton Trust, Parliamentary Privilege, analyses the backgrounds of those likely to become members of parliament for the first time in May’s general election and finds they are “unlikely to reflect any more social diversity than the current crop of MPs”.

The educational backgrounds varied across the political parties, but none was close to the national average. Of the likely new MPs, 31% attended private schools, compared with 7% of the adult population, and 19% attended either Oxford or Cambridge universities, compared with 1% of the adult population.

Why Ed Miliband needs to widen Labour’s MP selection pool
Diane Abbott
Read more
Among Conservative candidates, 49% were found to have been privately educated, compared with 19% of Labour candidates and 36% of Ukip candidates. In the current parliament, 33% of MPs went to independent schools – 52% of Conservative MPs, 10% of Labour MPs and 41% of Liberal Democrat MPs – meaning the next parliament is likely to see a very small reduction in the number of privately educated members.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/05/private-school-oxford-cambridge-educations-over-represented-parliamentary-candidates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... candidates</a>
No,instead of widening the scope to include all public education, stick to the point,how many non tories were in the super elite bullingdon club? You have george,dave and boris in their tailcoats posing proudly,says everything about the current tory crop. We need more skinners and benns in the house,not more camerons and johnsons.

Because he had a tough, working class upbringing, didn't he?
 
blue cigar said:
Ronnie the Rep said:
blue cigar said:
Classic generalisation from a tory...worry about those at the top and bollox to the rest,yep,you should vote tory no question. Idont begrudge people earning what they can,i begrudge selfish bastards ignoring the needy and assuming they have all chosen that path..quite a few selfish bastards on here.


Are you a student or an SNP worker?[/quote Im a tory voter,i always think i know best,dont care about anyone else and like to look down my nose.....actually ronnie,you are probably borderline ukip?


I asked a civil question. I am interested because you have such a way of putting things that it made me think you are borderline Stalinist
 
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