The General Election Thread

[hilts]

Did I hear Cam say "straight answers deserve straight questions" in today's debate in Parliament ?
Got that one the wrong way round Dave.
Almost as bad as his "maso-sadism" faux pas back in December.
I thought he was supposed to have had a good PM's question time.

In fairness fella even the envy crew would have to admit that if milliband asks cameron a straight question with a yes or no answer and then cameron answers it the worst thing he can then is not answer one himself, he looked rather foolish

was it just a coincidence that he wouldn't say yes or no if they would raise NI, then ed balls gives an interview afterwards saying they won't to try and save face, don't let your bias overspill too much

No bias here mate.
No plans to raise VAT ( Cameron pre General Election 2010).
No ifs, No buts.

not answering the points which is not a surprise, the biggest failing of this place is that posters have entrenched views which they defend again and again, in the end those with opposite views stop listening or make the same mistakes, i called a leftie a one trick pony the other week, don't remember who it was but it seems relevant to yourself

milliband looked silly, it isn't a point scoring exercise, cameron may do the same tomorrow, who cares

 

[hilts]

As Labour rightly should whilst restricting VAT to purely luxury goods.

The British government can't reduce the number of things that VAT is charged on; the unelected EU commission won't allow democratically elected politicians from individual countries to make such decisions.

Of course, if the UK were to leave the EU then we could take back the power to set our own tax policy. Labour wants the UK to be in the EU. Labour wants the British people to pay VAT on day to day necessities like electricity and clothes. If they form the government after the next election, Labour will act to ensure that the British people have no say in the scope of VAT.

Im reeling in shock here...on BM im reeling in shock that a RWNJ has actually come up with one rational idea why we should leave the EU. Well done Sir.

You should try this more often as usually its your fellow RWNJs banging on about immigration 24/7

Please remember though that its the Tories that allways raise the UK VAT rate...Cheers

VAT
Immigration
democratic process
More politicians with their noses in the trough
Individuals say is reduced

There are many reasons to leave the EU and stay in unfortunately getting people to discuss it as adults is impossible

 

[Chancy Termites]

'Take back the power'....Power to the people!

Where would that power rest btw? With 'the people'?

Of course it will. That's the default position of this nation.

I'm quite sure that, were we to leave the EU, we would have a system where we elected our lawmakers which would be an improvement on the European regime that we currently live under.

And these elected lawmakers: they'd be making laws in the best interests of the people, rather than their own careers, right?

I get what you're saying of course. The answer to your question is yes, but only if we as voters use our right to vote sensibly and avoid:

• I've always voted xxxxxx and so did my parents
  No matter who I vote for, xxxxxx always win here
  I'm happy to believe Russell Brand's drivel and so I won't be voting at all
  etcetera

In other words then yes, if nobody voted LibLabCon then we might indeed have a government that did the right thing by the electorate.

 

[Damocles]

 

[malg]

Lots of stuff in the papers about the NHS. Some consultants won't be happy, as Dave's on about them working weekends.........Tory twat!

 

[Cheesy]

I am just right of centre in my political views, but despite this I have voted Labour & Conservative previously. This time round I'll actually be voting for my local MP based on who I think is best for where I live (Tamworth). This was a pretty solid Labour constituency for years until the last election when it went Conservative. I have to say, since then, things have really been on the up (wages soaring & unemployment down big time) so I'll def be sticking with the Tories in the hope that this success can be replicated nationally.

 

[Len Rum]

In fairness fella even the envy crew would have to admit that if milliband asks cameron a straight question with a yes or no answer and then cameron answers it the worst thing he can then is not answer one himself, he looked rather foolish

was it just a coincidence that he wouldn't say yes or no if they would raise NI, then ed balls gives an interview afterwards saying they won't to try and save face, don't let your bias overspill too much

No bias here mate.
No plans to raise VAT ( Cameron pre General Election 2010).
No ifs, No buts.

not answering the points which is not a surprise, the biggest failing of this place is that posters have entrenched views which they defend again and again, in the end those with opposite views stop listening or make the same mistakes, i called a leftie a one trick pony the other week, don't remember who it was but it seems relevant to yourself

milliband looked silly, it isn't a point scoring exercise, cameron may do the same tomorrow, who cares

Thank for your pronouncement, o wise one.
I am merely your subject who foolishly thought that the fact that Mr Cameron made exactly the same promise five years ago and then broke it might be relevant. Also this was PMQs and so the PM should not be asking questions of the opposition leader who is therefore under no obligation to answer. However I bow to your superior insight.
I remain sir your humble and obedient servant.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Sunday Times poll puts Labour 4 points ahead.

Squeaky bum time for the Tories.

Expect more of this from the right wing press...

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Yep, the right wing press will be sharpening the knives, and the disparaging will continue apace.
But it'll be nicely balanced out by the left wing press.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Yep, the right wing press will be sharpening the knives, and the disparaging will continue apace.
But it'll be nicely balanced out by the left wing press.

Laughable.

 

[The perfect fumble]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...re-cuts-details-reveal-after-general-election

Tories may not reveal details of £12bn welfare cuts until after election

The Conservatives may not reveal details of plans to slash £12bn from the benefits bill before voters go to the polls on 7 May, Iain Duncan Smith has said.

The welfare secretary said it may not be “relevant” to explain where the rest of the cuts will fall until after the election.


I think the question how stupid do the Tories think the electorate are has been answered:......Very

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Yep, the right wing press will be sharpening the knives, and the disparaging will continue apace.
But it'll be nicely balanced out by the left wing press.

Laughable.

It is really, can't wait for the Mirror tomorrow.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Yep, the right wing press will be sharpening the knives, and the disparaging will continue apace.
But it'll be nicely balanced out by the left wing press.

Laughable.

It is really, can't wait for the Mirror tomorrow.

Balance?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Yep, the right wing press will be sharpening the knives, and the disparaging will continue apace.
But it'll be nicely balanced out by the left wing press.

Laughable.

It is really, can't wait for the Mirror tomorrow.

 

[kaz7]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...re-cuts-details-reveal-after-general-election

Tories may not reveal details of £12bn welfare cuts until after election

The Conservatives may not reveal details of plans to slash £12bn from the benefits bill before voters go to the polls on 7 May, Iain Duncan Smith has said.

The welfare secretary said it may not be “relevant” to explain where the rest of the cuts will fall until after the election.


I think the question how stupid do the Tories think the electorate are has been answered:......Very

He was on Andrew Marr show this morning and was asked several times where the cuts will be,he said i'm not announcing it to you a couple of times,when asked if it will be more cuts to disabled people he said no decisions have been made,he is one shady,lying fucker

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Laughable.

It is really, can't wait for the Mirror tomorrow.

That's the ticket!
Just such a shame that the left wing press isn't anywhere near as popular as the right wing press.
The message would be far more incisive.

 

[The perfect fumble]

It is really, can't wait for the Mirror tomorrow.

That's the ticket!
Just such a shame that the left wing press isn't anywhere near as popular as the right wing press.
The message would be far more incisive.

You're killing me! I'm not sure One Direction are on the ballot.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

That's the ticket!
Just such a shame that the left wing press isn't anywhere near as popular as the right wing press.
The message would be far more incisive.

You're killing me! I'm not sure One Direction are on the ballot.

Big piccy of Payne Bollick from that group due in the Mirror manana.

 

[Scottyboi]

Anyone else feel quite sad that its always going to be the main two parties that battle it out?

I don't like either of them, but no other party is going to get a sniff as we all Vote to stop the opposite party gaining a seat. No wonder so many people can't be arsed voting.

Lucy Powell had a shitter today as well on BBC1 was hard to watch.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

Anyone else feel quite sad that its always going to be the main two parties that battle it out?

I don't like either of them, but no other party is going to get a sniff as we all Vote to stop the opposite party gaining a seat. No wonder so many people can't be arsed voting.

Lucy Powell had a shitter today as well on BBC1 was hard to watch.

Yep. The more important the thing, the less choice there is. 2 parties really, it's either this or that at the moment. There where the apathy comes from.