The General Election Thread

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Ronnie the Rep said:
Len Rum said:
CityStu said:
I don't think he's looking for an excuse. I think he reckons that if he's going to have to defend his policies against a party further to the right, then Labour should have to defend their policies against a party further to their left. Besides, why shouldn't the Greens get a say? They're just as large as the Libs and UKIP.
Come on mate. Yes the Greens should be included , and I'm sure Ed would be happy with that, he wouldn't have any problems defending his policies against the Greens, but Dave would have a major problem with UKIP, hence his pretend concern over the Green's exclusion which hopefully for him will scupper the whole TV debate process.



Then include the greens and bring it on
Yeah rock on Ronnie.
But if that can't /doesn't happen don't make it a pre condition/ excuse for you not participating because you're frightened of another participant.
 
DC isn't running scared as the rags and Labourites claim. The problem as I mentioned earlier is, will this be a fair debate? As it stands it's handing Farage a huge advantage and platform to tear DC's policies apart as well as Siliband's. There's no Green party to stand against UKIP and Labour which is indeed undemocratic.

I'm not sure what that woman Sturgeon is moaning about (not being able to take part int he debate), the SNP had their biggest chance with the referendum. This election is for the UK, not a national/Scottish interest. She has her own fucking Parliament and laws.
 
de niro said:
Why have a debate when the labour leader will lie through his back teeth. It's part of that jobs remit.

Because then it would be unfair to the Tory and Lib Dem leaders who also don't get their opportunity to lie through their back teeth to a national audience too
 
foxy said:
DC isn't running scared as the rags and Labourites claim. The problem as I mentioned earlier is, will this be a fair debate? As it stands it's handing Farage a huge advantage and platform to tear DC's policies apart as well as Siliband's. There's no Green party to stand against UKIP and Labour which is indeed undemocratic.

I'm not sure what that woman Sturgeon is moaning about (not being able to take part int he debate), the SNP had their biggest chance with the referendum. This election is for the UK, not a national/Scottish interest. She has her own fucking Parliament and laws.

There is an offer on the table of exactly the debate he says he wants. Why won't he accept?
 
Chancy Termites said:
foxy said:
DC isn't running scared as the rags and Labourites claim. The problem as I mentioned earlier is, will this be a fair debate? As it stands it's handing Farage a huge advantage and platform to tear DC's policies apart as well as Siliband's. There's no Green party to stand against UKIP and Labour which is indeed undemocratic.

I'm not sure what that woman Sturgeon is moaning about (not being able to take part int he debate), the SNP had their biggest chance with the referendum. This election is for the UK, not a national/Scottish interest. She has her own fucking Parliament and laws.

There is an offer on the table of exactly the debate he says he wants. Why won't he accept?


Is there, I read that the only offers are, Miliband V Cameron, Miliband, Cameron and Clegg, Miliband, Cameron, Clegg and Farage.

My understanding is that Broadcasters won't allow the greend because it would raise concern and calls to include SNP, Plaid Cymru even though they are national parties and have no interest for England and the UK...
 
foxy said:
DC isn't running scared as the rags and Labourites claim. The problem as I mentioned earlier is, will this be a fair debate? As it stands it's handing Farage a huge advantage and platform to tear DC's policies apart as well as Siliband's. There's no Green party to stand against UKIP and Labour which is indeed undemocratic.

I'm not sure what that woman Sturgeon is moaning about (not being able to take part int he debate), the SNP had their biggest chance with the referendum. This election is for the UK, not a national/Scottish interest. She has her own fucking Parliament and laws.
Sure the Greens should be there but it's nonsense to suggest that they would represent a problem for Ed.
UKIP represent as much as a problem electorally for Ed as they do for Dave, it's just that Dave feels he has more to lose in a TV debate against Farage and is running scared using the absence of the Greens as a smokescreen.
 
foxy said:
Chancy Termites said:
foxy said:
DC isn't running scared as the rags and Labourites claim. The problem as I mentioned earlier is, will this be a fair debate? As it stands it's handing Farage a huge advantage and platform to tear DC's policies apart as well as Siliband's. There's no Green party to stand against UKIP and Labour which is indeed undemocratic.

I'm not sure what that woman Sturgeon is moaning about (not being able to take part int he debate), the SNP had their biggest chance with the referendum. This election is for the UK, not a national/Scottish interest. She has her own fucking Parliament and laws.

There is an offer on the table of exactly the debate he says he wants. Why won't he accept?


Is there, I read that the only offers are, Miliband V Cameron, Miliband, Cameron and Clegg, Miliband, Cameron, Clegg and Farage.

My understanding is that Broadcasters won't allow the greend because it would raise concern and calls to include SNP, Plaid Cymru even though they are national parties and have no interest for England and the UK...

It was initially proposed that way last May but they have since approached the others. There was a Guardian bloke on Radio Four's Today or PM on Wednesay saying they have heard back from the Greens, UKIP and Lib Dems too all saying they were up for it. Definitely not Con or Lab though.

I'm keeping my neck firmly stuck out on this one - no way either Cameron OR Miliband will dare to debate with Farage. They're both just too scared of the focus on their policies.
 
If anyone needs a reason why TV debates are a bad idea I give you exhibit one -

Nick Clegg.

If ever someone was over promoted it is Clegg. All based in TV.
 
What's the point of the TV debates?

Will Milliband come on and say 'If we win we'll spend loads of money recklessly and leave the economy in a total mess for the next government'?

Of course he won't, but that's what every Labour government does.

So I don't really need to tune in to the debates to know what Labour is going to do.

I know already.

And I don't need to hear Cameron point out this very obvious truth.
 
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