The greatest sportsman EVER

Appreciate the acheivements of jockeys such as McCoy but a fair bit of their sucess relies on the horse so I wouldnt include them in my list. I wouldnt have a F1 driver for that reason either. And similarly with team sports, you rely a lot on your team mates and its sometimes difficult to know how much of the sucess is owed to others.

Not taking anything away from anybody falling into those categories but my choice would be someone who does it on their own. And there is no more a brutal sport than boxing so it would have to be a boxer. Then there has to be charisma and flair with being a top sportsman. And as often the case its laced with tradegy.

Has to be Ali doesnt it.
 
didactic said:
King Of The Kippax said:
Who do you think it is pound for pound for what they have done in their respective sports?

My 3 would be

Tiger Woods, Phil Taylor, Muhammad Ali

I dont remember Ali and have only seen fights on youtube/DVD's etc, because of this i've had to narrow it down to Woods & Taylor.

I decided to go for the Power, for what he has won & what he has done for darts - Unreal.

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im not that well up on basket ball, but isnt that second one a 'travelling' offence?
 
Was watching squash on TV last week I remember when they were trying all new kinds of technology to make it a better spectator & TV sport in the early eighties. They spent a fortune on transparent walls, balls that lit up or were fluorescent to the camera.
None of this worked to get it popular on TV because it was a bore fest, the same guy was unbeaten for about 5 years:

Jahangir Khan with a winning streak of 555 consecutive competitive matches.

Multi sportsmen/women:

Jim Thorpe: American Football, Baseball, Basketball, Pentathlon & Decathlon
Denis Compton: England Cricket & Arsenal
Rebecca Romero: World Champion at rowing, Olympic silver medalist, World & olympic cycling champion.
Alex Zanardi: F1 driver, Champ Car winner, became disabled in a crash. Won 2 golds and silver in hand cycling at London 2012
 
It's Max Woosnam, without a shadow of a doubt.

Maxwell "Max" Woosnam (6 September 1892 – 14 July 1965) was an English sportsman who is sometimes referred to as the 'Greatest British sportsman' in recognition of his achievements.[1][2]
Amongst his achievements werewinning an Olympic gold and silver at the 1920 Summer Olympics, winning the doubles at Wimbledon, compiling a 147 break in Snooker, making a century at Lord's Cricket Ground, captaining the British Davis Cup team, captaining Manchester City F.C. finishing ultimately runners-up for the Football League Championship in 1920–21 and captaining the England national football team .

Max Woosnam was born into to a wealthy family in Liverpool. The son of Maxwell Woosnam, a clergyman who served as canon of Chester and Archdeacon of Macclesfield, Woosnam spent most of his childhood in Aberhafesp, Mid Wales. He attended Winchester College, where he captained the golf and cricket teams, and also represented the school at football and squash. As a schoolboy, he made scores of 144 and 33 not out for a Public Schools XI while playing against the MCC at Lord's.
In 1911, Woosnam enrolled in Cambridge University. Whilst here, he represented the university at football, cricket, lawn tennis, real tennis and golf (being a scratch golfer), becoming a quadruple Blue.
After Cambridge, Woosnam played amateur football for the then highly successful teams Corinthians and Chelsea.
In the First World War, he fought alongside Siegfried Sassoon on the western front and in the Gallipoli Campaign. Woosnam took part in a number of wartime sporting events, including football matches between a team of enlisted Corinthians players and Aldershot Command, and a Military vs Queen's Club tennis match.

After the war, Woosnam continued his amateur sporting career, taking part in several sporting events. Following a defeat of Woosnam while representing Cambridge University in a tennis match against Queen's Club in April 1919, the Times remarked that "Woosnam is a player of many games, and he could excel at tennis if he could devote enough time to the game... ...tennis is a mistress who must be constantly wooed." However, Woosnam continued to divide his attention; he played football for Chelsea either side of the Queen's Club match, captaining the team. His performance for Chelsea led to selection for a North versus South international trial match. Once the football season finished, Woosnam took part in several tennis tournaments. He won both the singles and doubles titles in the Cambridge University tournament, and entered Wimbledon for the first time. His tennis form in 1919 led The Times correspondent to describe his partnership with Noel Turnbull as a "doubles team of promise". Woosnam declined the opportunity to become a professional sportsman, finding the idea 'vulgar'.

Upon moving to Manchester, he signed for Manchester City on amateur terms. He made his debut on 1 January 1920 against Bradford City, a match which also saw the debut of Sam Cookson. Initially he played only home matches due to other commitments. However, when Manchester City, without Woosnam, suffered a shock 3–0 FA Cup defeat to Leicester City at the end of the month, some supporters blamed Woosnam's employers, Crossley Brothers. As a result, the engineering firm ordered Woosnam not to miss another game.
Playing at centre half, Woosnam eventually became Manchester City captain at the recommendation of his team-mates. This was highly unusual for an amateur among professionals. Eventually his success allowed him to play for England (both for the amateur team and as a full international as captain). Woosnam was also selected to captain the British football team at the Olympics, but refused, having already committed himself to the tennis team. He continued other sporting endeavours outside of football however, winning doubles titles at Wimbledon and the Olympics, and captaining the Great Britain Davis Cup team. After leaving Manchester City in October 1925, he continued playing football occasionally for Northwich Victoria.

He was appointed to the board of ICI, and died in 1965 of respiratory failure, having been a heavy smoker all his life..
His life is chronicled in the book All Round Genius – The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman, by Mick Collins.
Woosnam's uncle, Hylton Philipson, was a cricketer and played five Test matches for England.
He once defeated actor and film director Charlie Chaplin at table tennis, playing with a butter knife instead of a bat.
Besides being a pioneer for table tennis, he was very experienced at snooker, once achieving a maximum break of 147.
Jane Percy, Duchess of Northumberland, is Woosnam's sororal grandniece.
 
stony said:
It's Max Woosnam, without a shadow of a doubt.

Maxwell "Max" Woosnam (6 September 1892 – 14 July 1965) was an English sportsman who is sometimes referred to as the 'Greatest British sportsman' in recognition of his achievements.[1][2]
Amongst his achievements werewinning an Olympic gold and silver at the 1920 Summer Olympics, winning the doubles at Wimbledon, compiling a 147 break in Snooker, making a century at Lord's Cricket Ground, captaining the British Davis Cup team, captaining Manchester City F.C. finishing ultimately runners-up for the Football League Championship in 1920–21 and captaining the England national football team .

Max Woosnam was born into to a wealthy family in Liverpool. The son of Maxwell Woosnam, a clergyman who served as canon of Chester and Archdeacon of Macclesfield, Woosnam spent most of his childhood in Aberhafesp, Mid Wales. He attended Winchester College, where he captained the golf and cricket teams, and also represented the school at football and squash. As a schoolboy, he made scores of 144 and 33 not out for a Public Schools XI while playing against the MCC at Lord's.
In 1911, Woosnam enrolled in Cambridge University. Whilst here, he represented the university at football, cricket, lawn tennis, real tennis and golf (being a scratch golfer), becoming a quadruple Blue.
After Cambridge, Woosnam played amateur football for the then highly successful teams Corinthians and Chelsea.
In the First World War, he fought alongside Siegfried Sassoon on the western front and in the Gallipoli Campaign. Woosnam took part in a number of wartime sporting events, including football matches between a team of enlisted Corinthians players and Aldershot Command, and a Military vs Queen's Club tennis match.

After the war, Woosnam continued his amateur sporting career, taking part in several sporting events. Following a defeat of Woosnam while representing Cambridge University in a tennis match against Queen's Club in April 1919, the Times remarked that "Woosnam is a player of many games, and he could excel at tennis if he could devote enough time to the game... ...tennis is a mistress who must be constantly wooed." However, Woosnam continued to divide his attention; he played football for Chelsea either side of the Queen's Club match, captaining the team. His performance for Chelsea led to selection for a North versus South international trial match. Once the football season finished, Woosnam took part in several tennis tournaments. He won both the singles and doubles titles in the Cambridge University tournament, and entered Wimbledon for the first time. His tennis form in 1919 led The Times correspondent to describe his partnership with Noel Turnbull as a "doubles team of promise". Woosnam declined the opportunity to become a professional sportsman, finding the idea 'vulgar'.

Upon moving to Manchester, he signed for Manchester City on amateur terms. He made his debut on 1 January 1920 against Bradford City, a match which also saw the debut of Sam Cookson. Initially he played only home matches due to other commitments. However, when Manchester City, without Woosnam, suffered a shock 3–0 FA Cup defeat to Leicester City at the end of the month, some supporters blamed Woosnam's employers, Crossley Brothers. As a result, the engineering firm ordered Woosnam not to miss another game.
Playing at centre half, Woosnam eventually became Manchester City captain at the recommendation of his team-mates. This was highly unusual for an amateur among professionals. Eventually his success allowed him to play for England (both for the amateur team and as a full international as captain). Woosnam was also selected to captain the British football team at the Olympics, but refused, having already committed himself to the tennis team. He continued other sporting endeavours outside of football however, winning doubles titles at Wimbledon and the Olympics, and captaining the Great Britain Davis Cup team. After leaving Manchester City in October 1925, he continued playing football occasionally for Northwich Victoria.

He was appointed to the board of ICI, and died in 1965 of respiratory failure, having been a heavy smoker all his life..
His life is chronicled in the book All Round Genius – The Unknown Story of Britain's Greatest Sportsman, by Mick Collins.
Woosnam's uncle, Hylton Philipson, was a cricketer and played five Test matches for England.
He once defeated actor and film director Charlie Chaplin at table tennis, playing with a butter knife instead of a bat.
Besides being a pioneer for table tennis, he was very experienced at snooker, once achieving a maximum break of 147.
Jane Percy, Duchess of Northumberland, is Woosnam's sororal grandniece.

Ok. Forget what has been said before. Max Woosnam is the Daddy.

Fuck me, what a life he had!
 
Markt85 said:

Shame west ham banned him from Upton park because they wanted to charge him entrance fees. Only did he get acknowledged when he passed away.


I know many who don't class darts as a sport which is a shame.

Tiger would be a good shout. He changed the game completely with focus, fitness and made everyone raise their game more
 

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