The Harry and Meghan fuss

I don't see how whether someone is a Conservative or Brexit voter is relevant. We don't split the country on every single issue by whether someone is a Tory voter, Brexit voter or votes for that bucket head guy.

60% generally are in favour, 77% of over 65's are in favour, 68% of 50-64 year olds are in favour and 56% of 25-49 year olds are in favour.

The only clear statistic that matters here is the vast majority are in favour and the republic movement has A LOT of work to do.
As you say, a clear and large majority in favour of retaining the monarchy.

The latest YouGov poll shows a 60% / 25% split for people with a clear opinion. Across the range of demographics, support for abolition peaks at 34% in terms of gender and age and 35% in terms of location. Only 31% of remain voters favoured abolition.

So the 50% claim is complete bollocks, and about as accurate as the proverbial Brexit bus banner.
 
Yes, members of the electorate made a really big deal about how illegal it was, took it to the supreme court and got it struck down as being illegal.



No it doesn't. Power only exists if you can exercise it, and the fact the Queen felt she could not overrule an obviously illegal decision by the PM lest it look like she was intefering in politics means that she didn't have that power.

This is one of the main reasons the constitutional monarchy doesn't work, the erosion of the monarchy has just handed all of their powers to the PM.
Not enough to influence change, obviously. A few thousand posts on Twitter wouldn't exactly cut it.

Erm yes it does. Oh you're not going to start one of those "I disagree, but I am right so it's my truth we'll be following" arguments are you?

And yeah, look, the erosion of the powers of one institution has handed supreme power over to the other. Look how happy you are with that, yet you're advocating for a full Republic?!?
 
Wrong.

The monarch is the head of state in the country you live in.



Then you should go an live in an anarchy somewhere, because they do.
And just to add, there are what around 5-6 mostly anti-Tory threads on this forum?

I can't find a single one about abolishing the monarchy.
 
Did the electorate use its position to lobby to the Monarchy to do so? No it didn't, not by a majority, and it won't act unless we tell it, otherwise Parliament would see it as a power grab. Fact is the Monarchy still has Royal Prerogative to dissolve Parliament because it's the King's Parliament; difficult to apply, but still exists.

Although give it time and the Parliamentarians would see to it that that power is also suspended giving them free reign to do what they wish on behalf of the 'people'. Democracy!!
What’s this mechanism that the electorate has to lobby the King, and what system is in place to determine if a majority of us want it and to ensure that he will act on that mandate?
 
So who would you remove first, Rishi Sunak and the Tories or King Charles?

Which is impacting you most?

Anyone who claims to believe in democracy cannot support the fact the head of state is undemocratically put in power by blood lineage.

I don't like the Tories, or Rishi Sunak, and look forward to both being kicked to the curb, but they were democratically elected.
 
Anyone who claims to believe in democracy cannot support the fact the head of state is undemocratically put in power by blood lineage.

I don't like the Tories, or Rishi Sunak, but they were democratically elected.
King isn't in 'power', they're a figurehead. They can be influenced by the public, but queenie had given up getting involved with politics by that point and I doubt Charlie is too fussed either.

Or do you just mean in general? Well no, you don't vote for Kings, but I didn't vote for this Prime Minister, this Government to be in power, or my local MP to be sent to Parliament. If anything I feel my voice is even more ignored because I was at least consulted and yet it meant nothing. And if we had a President and I voted for the opposition, I now have to accept someone I didn't want to have supreme power over me because democracy?

But hey, democracy means fairness, right. And us being a Republic will make that better or worse?
 
King isn't in 'power', they're a figurehead. They can be influenced by the public, but queenie had given up getting involved with politics by that point and I doubt Charlie is too fussed either.

Or do you just mean in general? Well no, you don't vote for Kings, but I didn't vote for this Prime Minister, this Government to be in power, or my local MP to be sent to Parliament. If anything I feel my voice is even more ignored because I was at least consulted and yet it meant nothing.

But hey, democracy means fairness, right. And us being a Republic will make that better or worse?

So in this post you're arguing the king has no power & is just a figurehead, after arguing the king does have power in your previous post and it's important we keep those powers spread between Monarch and PM.


You can't even hold a coherent argument together. Come back to me when you've made your mind up.
 
So in this post you're arguing the king has no power & is just a figurehead, after arguing the king does have power in your previous post and it's important we keep those powers spread between Monarch and PM.


You can't even hold a coherent argument together.
Yep here we go, saying things I never stated.

The Monarchy has 'some' power such as Royal Prerogative, but barely uses it because of the media storm that would follow. That's not the same as being 'in power', numbnuts because Parliament is Sovereign. You said they had none.
 
Yep here we go, saying things I never stated.

The Monarchy has 'some' power such as Royal Prerogative, but barely uses it because of the media storm that would follow. That's not the same as being 'in power', numbnuts. You said they had none.

You can't be a figurehead (which by definition has no power) and have power over the PM + country.

Again, make your mind up which one it is, you're arguing 2 directly opposing positions.
 

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