The Harry and Meghan fuss

[Ancient Citizen]

The press and media in general can certainly pick on a person and make their life a misery when they want. Look what they did to poor Caroline Flack, but is that vilification racist or is it just picking on a easy target or a person they want to make out as the bad person as it sells papers? I think its the latter, sadly the media do it with people from all walks of life.

I couldn't agree more, the press has always been like this, ever since the first printing press was invented. They put their own slant on the news, be it political, or commercial reasons, they can hound and harass with the best of them. The problem with Megan Markle is that she inhabited the very parochial world of entertainment, where she and her kind are daily told how wonderful they are, just look at the Oscars to see the antics there. Self congratulatory, mutual adoration taken to the limit, the only thing she had to worry about was someone criticising her pretending job.
When, after the first show of love and admiration from the British public started to cool because of her attitude, it came as a shock, and we are where we are.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

And was there a race card when the red tops ferociously picked on the likes of Jade Goody and Caroline Flack? What about the the McCanns? rightly on wrongly the press have gone after them as well. The point is that the coverage isn't pleasant at all, but they don't just reserve the vindictiveness for black or people from an ethnic minority. I think they more likely choose a person who they decide they will portray as a 'baddy' and then perpetuate fake story lines to sell papers.

I reckon in this instance Meghan came in at just the wrong time, following so soon after Kate. There was always going to be comparisons made between the two and she sadly made overtures early on that she didn't want that.

FFS I sound like a Royal correspondent.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

White man calls racism claims tedious.

What a fucking shock.

Dipstick no nothing sticks his oar in.
No shock at all.
How do you know what colour I am by the way?

 

[west didsblue]

It’s pretty clear she was being smeared as soon as she came into the Royal Family. I recognised a lot of the writing as being similar to how young black footballers were being treated in this country.

Here’s a couple of examples that might have passed you by:

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Can't really argue with that other than the Express is the most appalling, bigoted bullshit newspaper specifically targeted at the most gammon like members of the population. It makes the Mail look like the Mirror by comparison.

 

[HelloCity]

And was there a race card when the red tops ferociously picked on the likes of Jade Goody and Caroline Flack? What about the the McCanns? rightly on wrongly the press have gone after them as well. The point is that the coverage isn't pleasant at all, but they don't just reserve the vindictiveness for black or people from an ethnic minority. I think they more likely choose a person who they decide they will portray as a 'baddy' and then perpetuate fake story lines to sell papers.

Caroline Flack was getting loads of shit was allegedly smashing a lamp over her partners heard and the McCanns for leaving their young children unattended while they got pissed on holiday - please don’t compare. You also mention Jade Goody but she got her stick in the media for literally being racist.

To note that I still disagree with the coverage those individuals got but it is different in this case. With Megan it was about managing perception. It’s Harry himself who has even confirmed issues were raised about the colour of the baby’s skin.

 

[kaz7]

Well well well

Nothing learnt from diana on mental health, protecting her and concerns she would marry her muslim lover and have brown babies

I have supported this couple and i feel vindicated in doing so

 

[kaz7]

I am British, I don't hate the Royal Family, just don't think we need one.

For Meghan to be asked how dark her babies skin might be is just fucking disgusting. Being more concerned about a babies skin colour than its health makes me feel sick. I couldnt care less if Meghan was a slapper from Stretford nobody deserves to be treated like that. Nobody.

And anyone justifying it is a sick **** as well.

Trolls in this thread will be trolls

 

[kaz7]

Why didn’t she give a name when asked to do so?

Bit late to claim it would be very damaging when you are making an accusation like that don’t you think?

What if it was philip and they named him, a 99 yr old man, there would be uproar that he was named

 

[HelloCity]

Well well well

Nothing learnt from diana on mental health, protecting her and concerns she would marry her muslim lover and have brown babies

I have supported this couple and i feel vindicated in doing so

It gets forgotten because how she was suddenly revered after her death but the right wing media and right wingers in general absolutely despised Diana.

 

[kaz7]

The only good thing to come out of this is watching Piers Morgan apoplectic on his show.... looks like he’s going to explode and Trisha Godard basically called him a racist and he didn’t like it at all.

Trisha battered him

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I genuinely don't like the vilification, abuse and bullying by the media and people on social media against any person, whether that's Meghan or some Z list celebrity, it's standing up to the morality of it and we saw with Caroline Flack the consequences

That's fair and noble enough. I just don't understand why there's enough public interest in it in the first place for the abuse to take place.

It's like with football and celebrity gossip; these people provide you with some sort of entertainment and then it becomes a hobby and then you get more engrossed in the external stuff.

But the royal family? I just don't understand how anyone has any interest in the first place. What do they provide to anyone which provides an emotional response on any level?

Some people just insist on having an opinion on everything.

 

[kaz7]

So the Queen is racist bigot who denied her great-grandson a title as she was worried about how black he would be?

That's what it boils down to so it's up to you to decide what is 'your truth'.

My truth is that it is complete bollocks.

They said nothing about the queen

Archie not having a title or protection is a matter of fact

 

[kaz7]

And was there a race card when the red tops ferociously picked on the likes of Jade Goody and Caroline Flack? What about the the McCanns? rightly on wrongly the press have gone after them as well. The point is that the coverage isn't pleasant at all, but they don't just reserve the vindictiveness for black or people from an ethnic minority. I think they more likely choose a person who they decide they will portray as a 'baddy' and then perpetuate fake story lines to sell papers.

Jades dad was black...

 

[carlosthejackal]

Do wqe still have to say 'alleged'? - surely a conviction in the high court of twitter is enough nowadays?

Joking about under age rape allegations ?? Whatever floats peoples boats

 

[abu13]

Nobody has come out of this situation looking good.

The Royal family have some difficult questions to face and if Harry and Megan's comments are true then rightly so.
I was very saddened with the way Megan handled the question about the babies skin colour, there was absolutely no need for her to say it would be very damaging if she named them, she could have just said she wasn't prepared to name them and leave it at that. If the Royal family actually said that they could not support her mental health issues then i am shocked, My employer offers a support service for mental health issues, I am sure the Royal family could do the same.
If it is true that nobody told her how she should conduct herself in front of the Queen then she needs to take a long hard look at her Husband.

And WTF is all this 2nd marriage shit, I can't believe this isn't been made more of. Basically they have admitted that the whole Wedding day was a deception to the British public, shameful

The only thing I would believe is that the relationship between both parties is hugely damaged.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Jades dad was black...

This, he said, amounted to a racial slur because her facial features are the result of her West Indian roots. Mr Goody, who had a black father and a white English mother, said at the time: "She's got a wide nose and large lips, like West Indians have, and to call her a pig is racist.

Jade has black roots through Grandpa Winston

Jade Goody's father complained she was the victim of racism when she first appeared on Big Brother. He claimed that claimed the housemates said his daughter resembled Miss Piggy - because she has West Indian features

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mike Cledford]

Do wqe still have to say 'alleged'? - surely a conviction in the high court of twitter is enough nowadays?

Of course it is, that's why she needs to say who it was, otherwise it's just another claim she can't substantiate.
Nobody has commented on her bullying many staff members, three have come forward, and their stories will soon be told, up to 13 more, who apparently signed non disclosure statements are also waiting in the wings.

Team Sussex (dearie dearie me) fans are already saying these allegations of bullying, yet to be made, are not true and made up.
I reckon l can make a Meghan Markle bingo card now with from following this morning's postings.

 

[abu13]

They said nothing about the queen

Archie not having a title or protection is a matter of fact

I think the Queen has come out of this quite well, no allegations directly against her and if anything there was genuine warmth and affection. While she is the head of state there is a whole organisation below he and I think it is quite clear that Megan and Harry are pointing fingers elsewhere specifically Charles and William.

 

[M18CTID]

What fucking difference does it make if I read it or not? The point is it’s being published and it’s a racially motivated witch hunt. And I say that as someone who doesn’t give a shite about the Royal Family one way or the other

I mean, the difference in reporting in The Daily Mail between Kate and Meghan and them holding their baby bumps is the difference between night and day. I've no idea if any of the other internal stuff is true or not (it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of it is as there's wrong 'uns in every family or it could be six of one/half a dozen of the other), but what can't be denied is that certain sections of the British press have gone after her from the outset and that should be the real story here.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Caroline Flack was getting loads of shit was allegedly smashing a lamp over her partners heard and the McCanns for leaving their young children unattended while they got pissed on holiday - please don’t compare. You also mention Jade Goody but she got her stick in the media for literally being racist.

To note that I still disagree with the coverage those individuals got but it is different in this case. With Megan it was about managing perception. It’s Harry himself who has even confirmed issues were raised about the colour of the baby’s skin.

Sorry can you please clarify ? Are you trying to justify the coverage those people got or not? Either you do or don't? You cant just use an excuse for the coverage. and they say you don't agree with it? Its not different at all is it? You cant justify it, that's why why stated that at the end of your response. No one deserves that kind of vilification what ever their ethnic background.