moomba said:simon23 said:you have got to be joking....i normally respect your opinion but he was terrible; an absolute embarassment!!!
couldnt control a ball. constantly knocked off the ball and looking for fouls which werent there, no running, won very few headers and missed a very good chance from a swp corner.....he offered absolutely nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An improvement on Benjani in the first 45 minutes is no great achievement, and I don't think he played all that well. But he did win balls in the air, and did hold up the ball as well as you could expect given the delivery to him. But it was more a commentary on how ineffective Benjani was, and I'd be pretty confident we would have been 1 up if it was Jo through on goal instead of Benjani in the first half.
cheshireblue said:I've said time and time again that Jo plays far too deep (infact, very similar to the way Keane has been playing at Liverpool). He's always looking to come out for the ball and never makes runs behind the back 4. There were occasions yesterday where he collected the ball wide a few times and looked clueless as to what to do next. I've seen it game after game where it's played into feet and he's only ever looking to play it back to Kompany/SWP/Ireland.
cheshireblue said:All I've done is bash Jo on these forums, but until I see something worth £19m then I'll continue to do so.
I've said time and time again that Jo plays far too deep (infact, very similar to the way Keane has been playing at Liverpool). He's always looking to come out for the ball and never makes runs behind the back 4. There were occasions yesterday where he collected the ball wide a few times and looked clueless as to what to do next. I've seen it game after game where it's played into feet and he's only ever looking to play it back to Kompany/SWP/Ireland.
The only way I see Jo developing is to play 442 with a pacey striker playing off him. Goal wise, I predict 95% of Jo's goals (if they ever come) will fall to him in the box from a set piece or deflected shot. People on here expecting him to nutmeg 3 defenders and bolt past the other must be watching a different player to me. He's not even great in the air!
Jo is very, very lucky that his transfer was overshadowed by SWP, Robinho and the takeover. If Jo would have been our only signing at a whopping £19m, far more questions would be being asked of his ability. (See Robbie Keane again)
moomba said:cheshireblue said:I've said time and time again that Jo plays far too deep (infact, very similar to the way Keane has been playing at Liverpool). He's always looking to come out for the ball and never makes runs behind the back 4. There were occasions yesterday where he collected the ball wide a few times and looked clueless as to what to do next. I've seen it game after game where it's played into feet and he's only ever looking to play it back to Kompany/SWP/Ireland.
Very similar to how Crouch played in his first months at Liverpool. Held up the ball well, but didn't get near the goal and I think he went 20 odd games without scoring. It was only when he started playing further up the field that he started to become effective as a goalscorer, maybe Jo has to be given specific instructions to avoid coming back into the midfield too far.
The Fat el Hombre said:He was shocking on saturday, unfortunately he has absolutely no udne4rstanding of the English game yet
If he's given a chance in time he will come good because there is no doubt that he is a very good player with shit loads of potential. He will reach it with us if the whingeing negative clowns on this thread like shaundickov don't get their way
Other than Vass, i think the team is supported well in the ground. Most of the noise coems from SS/111 & 110. The people in those blocks don't generally get on players backs they just support the team... Give Jo a run and lets see if we can have the people running onto hid flick ons etc.forevercity said:The Fat el Hombre said:He couldn't give him a run of games because the fans were starting to get on his back and his confidence was all but gone. Our problem is we get clowns like shaundickov attending our games who are all to happy to get on our own player backs
its shit isnt it. im as dissapointed as anyone with jo, but he cannot just come off the bench with 10mins to go and be expected to do the business. our fans are getting more and more rutheless so i can understand that a run of games infront of our fans could finish him off!
moomba said:simon23 said:you have got to be joking....i normally respect your opinion but he was terrible; an absolute embarassment!!!
couldnt control a ball. constantly knocked off the ball and looking for fouls which werent there, no running, won very few headers and missed a very good chance from a swp corner.....he offered absolutely nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An improvement on Benjani in the first 45 minutes is no great achievement, and I don't think he played all that well. But he did win balls in the air, and did hold up the ball as well as you could expect given the delivery to him. But it was more a commentary on how ineffective Benjani was, and I'd be pretty confident we would have been 1 up if it was Jo through on goal instead of Benjani in the first half.