The Labour Government

[bluenova]

Baaa

I understand you're embarrassed that you posted a 'fact' that turned out not to be true.

Don't worry, once you grow up a little you'll feel less worried about stuff like that, and probably won't feel the need to resort to childish insults :)

 

[hilts]

I understand you're embarrassed that you posted a 'fact' that turned out not to be true.

Don't worry, once you grow up a little you'll feel less worried about stuff like that, and probably won't feel the need to resort to childish insults :)

The simple truth of this is an ombudsman said the DWP were wrong and Labour have publicly stated they backed the waspi women including Starmer who said it was an injustice that needed sorting when he was in opposition. Same for other current Labour cabinet members.

Whether it was put in a manifesto or not isn't hugely relevant they gave the impression to the women that they backed them and also used it politically.

Now some have said the women don't deserve anything and that's fine, they even go as far as to say that it is a stupid idea.

So are Starmer Kendall and Raynor fucking stupid for backing them in the first place? Are the posters.on here more in the know? The posters claim we now have competent people in charge.

So they can only be thick and untrustworthy or they just used these women and never had any intention of helping them. So devious and untrustworthy.

Either way it's not great is it?

Anyhow their supporters on here will just do as per.

 

[metalblue]

I could post some of Starmers justice for waspi women comments but one has to be careful with the gravitational pull of a black hole, or a purples arsehole as its now scientifically called.

I think they should have claimed it was 100bn or more because one day a decent journalist will number crunch the cost of broken promises and it will be a fuck lot higher than the mysterious 22bn.

The £22bn black holes that’s been plugged with £40bn of tax rises but still responsible for every decision the government makes. That black hole?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I understand you're embarrassed that you posted a 'fact' that turned out not to be true.

Don't worry, once you grow up a little you'll feel less worried about stuff like that, and probably won't feel the need to resort to childish insults :)

I wouldn’t bother, it’s ’Teddies In the corner’ stuff with anything and everything that Labour do, open to ridicule.

Notice there’s no talk of the good stuff?

 

[BungleBear]

The simple truth of this is an ombudsman said the DWP were wrong and Labour have publicly stated they backed the waspi women including Starmer who said it was an injustice that needed sorting when he was in opposition. Same for other current Labour cabinet members.

Whether it was put in a manifesto or not isn't hugely relevant they gave the impression to the women that they backed them and also used it politically.

Now some have said the women don't deserve anything and that's fine, they even go as far as to say that it is a stupid idea.

So are Starmer Kendall and Raynor fucking stupid for backing them in the first place? Are the posters.on here more in the know? The posters claim we now have competent people in charge.

So they can only be thick and untrustworthy or they just used these women and never had any intention of helping them. So devious and untrustworthy.

Either way it's not great is it?

Anyhow their supporters on here will just do as per.

It should have been sorted before Labour got it, and they didn't have the full information in opposition.

It was jumped on like a big no win no fee claim, and impossible to assess damage to each "claimant". It would cost more than the recommended awards to hear each case. PiP renewal claims are a year behind, that hasn't just happened - there would be no staff to do the assessments, and a brand new system would need creating leading to appeals and judicial reviews.

It is same with the winter fuel payments, those just over pension guarantee credit were the ones affected, but it worked on PGC as a means tested passport benefit, and it was not practicable or proportionate to develop an additional means test for £200.

It is the same Civil Servants and ideas for both, but the previous one started legislation that was never passed in most cases, or left so many holes extensive regulations were needed which didn't happen, they cut NI twice in a row and it needed balancing sooner or later. They knew they were on their way out so made it a desperate as possible. That and the ageing population which a decreasing workforce has to pay for. No easy decisions.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

It’s clear they’re sleepwalking into disaster with this Musk / Farage thing.

If Musk funnels a ton of cash at Reform it’s entirely possible Farage at least becomes leader of the opposition.

Doesn’t bear thinking about.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Seems like they’re going through their checklist of things they said they would/wouldn’t do, and doing the exact opposite. Front bench can hardly keep their faces straight. We’ve been conned, again.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The simple truth of this is an ombudsman said the DWP were wrong and Labour have publicly stated they backed the waspi women including Starmer who said it was an injustice that needed sorting when he was in opposition. Same for other current Labour cabinet members.

Whether it was put in a manifesto or not isn't hugely relevant they gave the impression to the women that they backed them and also used it politically.

Now some have said the women don't deserve anything and that's fine, they even go as far as to say that it is a stupid idea.

So are Starmer Kendall and Raynor fucking stupid for backing them in the first place? Are the posters.on here more in the know? The posters claim we now have competent people in charge.

So they can only be thick and untrustworthy or they just used these women and never had any intention of helping them. So devious and untrustworthy.

Either way it's not great is it?

Anyhow their supporters on here will just do as per.

That's what I have been trying to explain to him, but he is clinging onto , "it wasn't in the manifesto" so it doesn't matter. The £70 billion of tax rises wasnt in the manifesto either!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

It’s clear they’re sleepwalking into disaster with this Musk / Farage thing.

If Musk funnels a ton of cash at Reform it’s entirely possible Farage at least becomes leader of the opposition.

Doesn’t bear thinking about.

TBH Musk sticking his nose into UK politics scares me. He clearly has very little comprehension of how we as a nation work.

 

[metalblue]

It should have been sorted before Labour got it, and they didn't have the full information in opposition.

It was jumped on like a big no win no fee claim, and impossible to assess damage to each "claimant". It would cost more than the recommended awards to hear each case. PiP renewal claims are a year behind, that hasn't just happened - there would be no staff to do the assessments, and a brand new system would need creating leading to appeals and judicial reviews.

It is same with the winter fuel payments, those just over pension guarantee credit were the ones affected, but it worked on PGC as a means tested passport benefit, and it was not practicable or proportionate to develop an additional means test for £200.

It is the same Civil Servants and ideas for both, but the previous one started legislation that was never passed in most cases, or left so many holes extensive regulations were needed which didn't happen, they cut NI twice in a row and it needed balancing sooner or later. They knew they were on their way out so made it a desperate as possible. That and the ageing population which a decreasing workforce has to pay for. No easy decisions.

What information didn’t Labour have in opposition?