Saddleworth2
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How about Rwanda and her migration policy?
Her own heritage?
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Her own heritage?
Google is your friend mate.
mosssideblue
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Collar and Cuff type knowledge :)I partially agree but no competent labour would be making the political errors he is making. I have less problems with him than I do Reeves who should be nowhere near that job. However his leadership has also to be judged on the team he picks to run his government. And before you jump in about Reeves, I have knowledge of her that I won't divulge on here.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Is she Kevin Reeves’ love child?And before you jump in about Reeves, I have knowledge of her that I won't divulge on here.
Saddleworth2
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hmmm not quiteCollar and Cuff type knowledge :)
Saddleworth2
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damn.Is she Kevin Reeves’ love child?
BlueHammer85
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I partially agree but no competent labour would be making the political errors he is making. I have less problems with him than I do Reeves who should be nowhere near that job. However his leadership has also to be judged on the team he picks to run his government. And before you jump in about Reeves, I have knowledge of her that I won't divulge on here.
PM is an impossible job to please all.
What major political errors has he made?
Saddleworth2
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briefing that his leadership was under threat? allowing a u turn on income tax in the forthcoming budget? U turn on benefits cuts? Various PR mistakes? I have already told you I consider him far superior to anything the Tory's or Reform could put up but even the most blinkered supporter must see that his first year has contained a number of unnecessary mistakes. The country is in a appalling financial state yet he/they are still concerned at the optics rather than being truthful about what we need to do and getting on with doing it.PM is an impossible job to please all.
What major political errors has he made?
Really?Appreciate you appreciating it mate!
Milk pricing on the supermarket shelf for me is as (if not more) dependent on oil and energy costs - cost to process, transport and even the plastic containers it comes in are all impacted by those two things. If they drop along with the farmgate price then we may see a reduction in milk prices on the shelf, it’ll be offset by something else being more expensive, ie we will continue to have inflation - which is great for government debt as it erodes it overtime if you can convince the market to lend you money at a lower % than inflation and a key ingredient for growth.
The packaging and transport costs must be a fraction of the actual cost of the milk, and won't fluctuate like the market price of the milk (down 20% in two months according to 'The Grocer'). https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/news/fa...-again-as-oversupply-continues/711555.article
The simple explanation to my original question is retailers creaming off milk for profits.
Johnson got rid of them.It may have been then, but I think you'll struggle to find a senior Tory now that wanted to stay in. But I take your point, maybe just highlighting Refrom would have been more accurate.
metalblue
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She said the Tories are the only party that can recover Britain
Haha. Touché!!!!
metalblue
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How about Rwanda and her migration policy?
Her own heritage?
Google is your friend mate.
You’re confusing stupidity with dishonesty mate ;)
I don’t ever see her being PM, she would be the first leader to ever take over a party after they lose an election and win the next one. There is no evidence to suggest that she is going to change that trend.
metalblue
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hmmm not quite
Hmmmm… not quite eh?
So partially right?
Putting all the clues together…Is the secret she’s a ****?
metalblue
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briefing that his leadership was under threat? allowing a u turn on income tax in the forthcoming budget? U turn on benefits cuts? Various PR mistakes? I have already told you I consider him far superior to anything the Tory's or Reform could put up but even the most blinkered supporter must see that his first year has contained a number of unnecessary mistakes. The country is in a appalling financial state yet he/they are still concerned at the optics rather than being truthful about what we need to do and getting on with doing it.
Yup…Being led not leading
metalblue
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Really?
The packaging and transport costs must be a fraction of the actual cost of the milk, and won't fluctuate like the market price of the milk (down 20% in two months according to 'The Grocer'). https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/news/fa...-again-as-oversupply-continues/711555.article
The simple explanation to my original question is retailers creaming off milk for profits.
I didn’t check and went off my own instincts of a few pennies off a litre of milk can soon be swallowed, and the some, in the energy and oil costs as they are a multiplier in the processing and transport parts of the supply chain.
I may well be wide of the mark so happy to be corrected
Saddleworth2
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Ok she says stupid things that aren't true. Does that make it better?You’re confusing stupidity with dishonesty mate ;)
I don’t ever see her being PM, she would be the first leader to ever take over a party after they lose an election and win the next one. There is no evidence to suggest that she is going to change that trend.
Chippy_boy
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PreciselyNot that i usually stick up for chippy but this was the post that set it all up.
Now i replied with based on? Which gave everyone the opportunity to agree on the stupidity of the post or back it up.
No one did and then leading post/posts were made hoping chippy would say Reform or Tory so we could go through the same things about that rabble for the thousanth time. This is not debate its repetition at this point.
Anyhow the truth imho is this labour arent as bad yet as the previous Tory govt but they have time to become so, let's hope not.
As for anything else on offer that would be a bollocks statement unless @ballbag can transcend parallel universes and see how the others did.
But he can't so it twas bolllocks, which is ironic from someone called ballbag I guess:-)
metalblue
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Ok she says stupid things that aren't true. Does that make it better?
And so does Starmer if we are measuring by that yardstick.
Saddleworth2
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just google her past employers and go from there.Hmmmm… not quite eh?
So partially right?
Putting all the clues together…Is the secret she’s a ****?
Saddleworth2
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its the frequency.And so does Starmer if we are measuring by that yardstick.
She claimed that her Rwanda policy was more effective than what Labour are doing now. Is that stupid or is it an untruth?
metalblue
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its the frequency.
She claimed that her Rwanda policy was more effective than what Labour are doing now. Is that stupid or is it an untruth?
Ah great question!! Now we’re getting into political doublespeak. Was it more effective is a broad question that has many answers depending on what we are assessing. Did it remove more people? No. Was it more cost effective? No. So on those metrics it wasn’t more effective. Did it prevent more boat journeys? Hard to measure as it’s difficult to prove the null. Was it more effective for Rwanda? Absolutely!
Exhibit A for why people are fucked off with politics because it’s all smoke and mirrors with broad stroke statements that struggle to be disproven - unless it’s a flat out lie like never having had a party.
Rwanda was stupid mind and for anything that matters to the UK, ineffective