The Labour Government

[mosssideblue]

And which Tory party donor is it being leased from?

For sure there will be a connection

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Everyone's a racist in the mind of the groups first and foremost anti-Semite.

You missed out an apostrophe. I take those kind of remarks as a badge of honour when they come from people like you and your miserable mate.

It was framed as a general comment rather than a specific one. I take it you would describe yourself as confused then as you haven't taken issue with that?

 

[mexico1970]

The Tories have used taxpayers money totally irresponsibly and I hope as more and more is found out it is stated in the HoC. They really need investigating as this kind of ROI is suspect to say the least

It's genuinely akin to the Nazis hiding their gold and stealing what they can, I am not saying the Tories are Nazis but the principle of just stealing everything before you get caught out.

Who signed this shit off?

 

[BayernMan]

 

[Postman Pep]

 

[Don Karleone]

They should do it anyway, can't see it though.

 

[Postman Pep]

They should do it anyway, can't see it though.

I can see one or two going through with it ... with a fair few more putting on a sad face and endorsing a 'strongly worded' statement by John McDonnell.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

Anybody who is still trying to defend the Rwanda scheme (of which there still seems to be a few) needs to read this paper from March. They clearly must think the country just has bags and bags of money to fritter around.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CDP-2024-0054/CDP-2024-0054.pdf

For anybody doing the maths that is £170,874 per person over 5 years + £400,000 per person for the first 300 people. An eye-watering sum of money that doesn’t even capture the additional fixed contributions to the ETI fund. Storing claimants on Bibby Stockholm costs £45,000+ per year. Another incredible waste of money.

Actually processing an asylum claim costs £12,000 plus whatever support an approved refugee might require if they are successful. But if they are successful then they aren’t economic migrants are they?

And this as a deterrent? Well here’s one for you. Even if through this policy you deterred every single asylum seeker from coming here for an entire year, then we would still be paying more to Rwanda than we would save. If we generously ignore the huge up-front fixed cost, then if we send 1,000 people to Rwanda each year we would need to deter between 50-75% of unsuccessful asylum claimants from coming here for it to make economic sense in the long-term. That is fantasy. Are people really willing to bet close to a billion pounds on deterring over half of a group of people who clearly aren’t deterred by the much higher odds prospect of drowning in the Channel?

So Yvette Cooper is entirely correct when she describes this as an obscene waste of money. If people think we can sensibly afford a scheme like this right now they are living in an alternate reality.

 

[lazerblue]

dedicated to all the regulars on here, you know who you are ;-)

 

[Don Karleone]

I can see one or two going through with it ... with a fair few more putting on a sad face and endorsing a 'strongly worded' statement by John McDonnell.

To be fair to McDonnell, he says he will vote for the SNP amendment. It needs to be more than a handful though and I suspect you're right.