The Labour Government

[Vic]

It was a statement about tax in general, if your confused I'm sorry. If you and others want to try and score points or call me a Tory whiner or whatever, good you win congrats, I'm not bothered.

Well, I didn't call you a Tory whiner. You just responded to a Tory whiner.

 

[mancityvstoke]

It’s a possibility that, being a Tory voter, she is now angry on 2 fronts. I’m very much of the view that people who don’t need it, shouldn’t get it. Same point of view goes for all these universal payments such as Family Allownace.

Our benefit system needs a full review and is there as a safety net for those who need it. Not a bonus for those that don’t.

Give people with only a state pension a decent pension not £200 a week and make the thresholds for savings allowances cut offs higher

 

[blue saturday]

it pisses people off and some folks win but anyone who thought the grass is greener might want to wait till the budget then you mey reget

 

[Postman Pep]

She's been itching to do it since 2014.

and this from 2015 (I think). There is a slightly longer version where she boasts of filing through the lobbies with the Tories to support their welfare reforms with an emphasis on the 2 child cap. Remember last week .... things not being in Kings speeches and all that.





More an obsession than a tough choice.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I don't care. I actually think he just mentioned he retired at 50, had a pension of £1,500 a month ( Before adding his state pension to it I think, but I may be wrong on that) He didn't mention what his missus fetches in per month but they drive two cars and have two holidays a year. I'm.not shedding any tears.

I retired at 60 - won't see a state pension until 67 if at all I drive a 13 reg Dacia Duster my wife has a 12 hr a week contract at the nearby Sainsbury Local and drives a 59 plate Chevrolet Matiz and we holiday in a static caravan .................... living the dream

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Surely the pre payment proviso will be easy enough to get round.

 

[mackenzie]

It’s a possibility that, being a Tory voter, she is now angry on 2 fronts. I’m very much of the view that people who don’t need it, shouldn’t get it. Same point of view goes for all these universal payments such as Family Allownace.

Our benefit system needs a full review and is there as a safety net for those who need it. Not a bonus for those that don’t.

I agree, but I still see her point (in a way).

I think the whole welfare/benefits system has now been extended to so many that those who have always paid in (45/50 years and climbing) feel aggrieved if they are "penalised" (as they see it) for working hard and saving.

The thing is that the original benefits system was supposed to be a "stop gap" for those in desperate need (I'm not talking about people who are very unwell or disabled here by the way), and now multiple people/families receive top ups from the state (through UC) because of poor wages. And that pisses off people who don't receive that means tested benefit, and subsequently don't receive any of the extras like the Cost of Living payments, etc etc
One could say they have been lucky to not have to claim it but you can see how the visual dynamics work and what they perceive.

 

[paulchapo]

my remarks to him were sent to cyberspace

Some of mine as well.

 

[Vic]

I've just seen the speech.

Robot Reeves has had an emotions patch fitted.

Sounded Angry, and at one point like a mother scalding her kids who want to go to Disney and were told they were going Disley.

I hope you meant scolding.

 

[paulchapo]

I retired at 60 - won't see a state pension until 67 if at all I drive a 13 reg Dacia Duster my wife has a 12 hr a week contract at the nearby Sainsbury Local and drives a 59 plate Chevrolet Matiz and we holiday in a static caravan .................... living the dream

You're doing okay, £1,500 a month before your state pension kicks in. Whatever the missus gets. I'm sure you said you retired at 50 but I may have misread