The Labour Government

BlueHammer85 said:
because that's the easy and thick position, just slag off, moan and say 'they're all the same'' ... media will always find negatives and MPs will make mistakes, that's life - but it doesn't mean 'they're all the same' - thats a tired cliche that will always be said regardless who's in charge and how they're doing.
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It’s interesting you say that. Labour ministers and MPs one after another have been rolled out using the excuse of freebies is “it’s not unusual, every MP does it”. Guess they must be a bit thick and like easy sound bites eh?

Trust in politics is at an all time low. People are listening to the daily news and hearing these MPs come out and refuse to accept the optics are shit, Linkin Park summed it up well when they wrote:

These fuckers are laughing their way to the bank, and cashing their cheque
Asking you to have compassion and have some respect
For a leader so nervous in an obvious way
Stuttering and mumbling for nightly news to replay
And the rest of the world watching at the end of the day
In the living room, laughing like, "What did he say?"
 
metalblue said:
It’s interesting you say that. Labour ministers and MPs one after another have been rolled out using the excuse of freebies is “it’s not unusual, every MP does it”. Guess they must be a bit thick and like easy sound bites eh?

Trust in politics is at an all time low. People are listening to the daily news and hearing these MPs come out and refuse to accept the optics are shit, Linkin Park summed it up well when they wrote:

These fuckers are laughing their way to the bank, and cashing their cheque
Asking you to have compassion and have some respect
For a leader so nervous in an obvious way
Stuttering and mumbling for nightly news to replay
And the rest of the world watching at the end of the day
In the living room, laughing like, "What did he say?"
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Its the Media making such a mole out of a mountain that gives everyone the opinion that 'they're all the same'. Labour MPs accepted gifts of someone , that is it, a non story.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Its the Media making such a mole out of a mountain that gives everyone the opinion that 'they're all the same'. Labour MPs accepted gifts of someone , that is it, a non story.
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Be even more of a non story if they just didn't accept these gifts in the first place.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Its the Media making such a mole out of a mountain that gives everyone the opinion that 'they're all the same'. Labour MPs accepted gifts of someone , that is it, a non story.
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It's a similar situation to party gate right or wrong doesn't come into it, it's the way it appears needs firm decisive action or will fester.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Its the Media making such a mole out of a mountain that gives everyone the opinion that 'they're all the same'. Labour MPs accepted gifts of someone , that is it, a non story.
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Aye but Starmer and his minions are giving the story oxygen.

I said at the time when they announced no more clothes they should have not said anything and just fronted it out (and repented in private). So they let the media write new headlines and ask new questions (why was it ok but not ok now).

Once that was running out of steam Starmer pops up and says yeah but that £20k was for my kid to study in peace. Now the headlines and questions are going to be one of hypocrisy and being out of touch.

This lot just don’t seem very good at politics. If they were good at policy you’d perhaps overlook that but then they come up with absolute winners like the WFA which overshadows anything they’ve done well. This is a very naive government run by a very naive leader.

On the positive side they can only get better as they learn how to do politics better, but for now they need to win a ceasefire to get control of the narrative. For that they need to shut up about donations and not feed headlines. Accept the country think you’re a duplicitous toad and hope the good you do eventually outweighs the current cluster fuck and people move on. We’re not that far away from our first old person to die due to cold and we all know what those headlines and questions are going to be about - the government needs to get a bit of a rest from the negative press before then.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Partygate was illegal. Accepting a gift is not.
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What was more damaging for him though? That he broke the law or that he was having a birthday party whilst folk couldn’t visit those dying in hospitals or care homes or attend their funerals.

People tend to react to emotions with politics (ie the optics) not the substance. If you think the headlines from the WFA is bad now, you wait for the first person to die yet the substance of the policy is unchanged.
 
What these stupid media don't take into account is the fact that his son will now probably have to put up with bullying and 'teasing' about having gone to another house during the election.
Whatever you think of his father putting the child under pressure is not on. Teenagers are vulnerable at the best of times as we keep reading and hearing so lay off the children. JMHO
 
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