The Labour Government

[blueinsa]

Inflation down by more than expected and growth up by more than expected in March. Hopefully Trump’s assault on the world economy won’t scupper this much needed progress.

It’s certainly welcome news but it’s still 2.6% and everything continues to cost more.

Inflation isn’t the issue for many, it’s shit wages and rising bills.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

The system certainly wasn’t working under the last government who seemed intent in politicising the problem by deliberately not dealing with it which created a huge backlog of people who weren’t allowed to work.

Early days for the new government but they do seem to be processing claims quicker. I have no idea what proportion of successful asylum claimants are in gainful employment paying taxes but it’s got to be more than it was when their asylum claims just weren’t being processed.

The fact that Eastern European migrant workers are no longer coming in significant numbers for seasonal farming and hospitality work suggests there’s certainly jobs out there that many could do.

When you ask what skills they have, it’s impossible to answer as they are all different, which is why they need to be processed quickly and either deported or allowed to work.

When all fails, return to the talking point that pricks their ears.

 

[blueinsa]

When all fails, return to the talking point that pricks their ears.

“Smash the gangs”?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

“Smash the gangs”?

‘Pricked’.

 

[hampshireblue]

It’s certainly welcome news but it’s still 2.6% and everything continues to cost more.

Inflation isn’t the issue for many, it’s shit wages and rising bills.

Putting aside the shit wages, doesn't one equal the other?

And let's not forget that according to some giving pay rises inevitably leads to inflation!

 

[blueinsa]

Putting aside the shit wages, doesn't one equal the other?

And let's not forget that according to some giving pay rises inevitably leads to inflation!

Part of the con trick.

You can’t have a decent wage because it’s inflationary.

What they mean is I can have a decent income, those creating the wealth can’t.

 

[hampshireblue]

Part of the con trick.

You can’t have a decent wage because it’s inflationary.

What they mean is I can have a decent income, those creating the wealth can’t.

I agree. But this was the line the Tories used when in power and continued to do so when pat awards to various groups of workers.

We all want a skilled and well paid workforce, but the varied nature, opportunity and ability of the workforce will, unfortunately, lead to the disparities that we see at present. The aim should be to try to ensure the disparities don't get any worse.

 

[hilts]

It’s as bad as the sleepers who spent 14 years pretending to be socialists and decrying every Tory policy to now literally cheer lead stuff that would have had them frothing at the mouth not so long ago.

They refer to themselves as the “adults”.

It’s a funny old game is politics.

Harsh they really needed austerity and the disabled to get on their bikes this time

CozoF The Blak whole

 

[hcblue95]

It’s as bad as the sleepers who spent 14 years pretending to be socialists and decrying every Tory policy to now literally cheer lead stuff that would have had them frothing at the mouth not so long ago.

They refer to themselves as the “adults”.

It’s a funny old game is politics.

I think you're talking about centrists. I haven't seen any socialists backing Starmer. He's stolen the party from socialists and given them no viable option to vote for.

 

[blueinsa]

Harsh they really needed austerity and the disabled to get on their bikes this time

CozoF The Blak whole

Serious business running the country mate. Tough choices have to be made and the books balanced as there is not a bottomless money pit.

Fiscal rules are not a joke and not for bending and so the disabled and pensioners can just suck it up I’m afraid.

 

[blueinsa]

I think you're talking about centrists. I haven't seen any socialists backing Starmer. He's stolen the party from socialists and given them no viable option to vote for.

Haha.

Those centrists as you want to describe them where very much aligned with the socialists for 14 years.

It’s strange how they are different now and to the socialists on here, fair play, you stick to your principles and word at least.

 

[west didsblue]

Haha.

Those centrists as you want to describe them where very much aligned with the socialists for 14 years.

It’s strange how they are different now and to the socialists on here, fair play, you stick to your principles and word at least.

Don’t think you’d find many centrists supporting Corbyn a few years ago. Might have been considered less worse than Johnson for some but that’s as far as it went. But then you’d know that as a traditional Labour voter.

 

[stonerblue]

Serious business running the country mate. Tough choices have to be made and the books balanced as there is not a bottomless money pit.

Fiscal rules are not a joke and not for bending and so the disabled and pensioners can just suck it up I’m afraid.

Those disabled and pensioners that have just had a raise, them ones?

 

[abu13]

Genuine question.

Is there a site that shows hiw many arrive each day and the split between men, women and children.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Haha.

Those centrists as you want to describe them where very much aligned with the socialists for 14 years.

It’s strange how they are different now and to the socialists on here, fair play, you stick to your principles and word at least.

I seem to recall that a number of arch critics of austerity used to post on here, people who believed that there was no economic necessity for austerity, even when the deficit was north of 10% of GDP. It was all a political choice, apparently.

Now they appear to see no alternative to austerity, all because of the entirely fictitious £22bn fiscal black hole*, and spend their days defending spending cuts. It’s funny how things turn out.

* We’re still waiting for Rachel Reeves to provide that line-by-line breakdown, as promised.

 

[inbetween]

Or quickly process their asylum claims, then either deport them or let them do the jobs that British people don’t want to do and take tax from them.

Yep agreed on processing claims faster. It surely is a better option than paying billions per year for hotels. Personally I would process them asap and release them into the wild so to speak. The numbers aren't big enough to really bother too much about it whereas regular immigration is a very different issue.

Either way I don't think Labour are getting it right. They can talk up deportations but I'm pretty sure that deportations cost a crazy amount too. I'm still not sure about this stop the gangs approach because how well is the stop the drug gangs approach going? It's much harder considering the fact that the gangs aren't even in the UK.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Those disabled and pensioners that have just had a raise, them ones?

You don't want pensioners a rise in annual pension rates to pay for extra Gas, Electricity, Water Rates (26% rise in bills) and council tax? Fuckin ell mate. Try living on just over £200 a week and see how you manage.

The national living wage is £12.21 an hour .....40 hour week? That's £488 a week. That's a reasonable wage to live on.

 

[hilts]

Those disabled and pensioners that have just had a raise, them ones?

Yes the ones that get by on less than their European counter parts, yes those ones.

I think you're a good poster but this let them eat cake attitude is unbecoming of some on here. Not sure any party deserves that kind of blind loyalty on a football forum.
Im certain Starmer is not gonna lose any election because a couple of city fans said in a forum yeah I would have taken the money from elsewhere
None of our politicians deserve the sacrifice of selling a bit of ones soul just bbecause you voted for them.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Don’t think you’d find many centrists supporting Corbyn a few years ago. Might have been considered less worse than Johnson for some but that’s as far as it went. But then you’d know that as a traditional Labour voter.

That's because there are a lot of people who think and say they are left wing or socialist, but actually are nothing of the sort.
It's a horrible sort of neo liberal mindset that is actually not very liberal and Starmer is perfect for them.

 

[blueinsa]

Those disabled and pensioners that have just had a raise, them ones?

Pensioners that are about to be hit by a Labour retirement tax as they’re dragged back in.

Those ones, yes.