The Labour Government

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It's a similar situation to party gate right or wrong doesn't come into it, it's the way it appears needs firm decisive action or will fester.

Partygate was illegal. Accepting a gift is not.

 

[metalblue]

Its the Media making such a mole out of a mountain that gives everyone the opinion that 'they're all the same'. Labour MPs accepted gifts of someone , that is it, a non story.

Aye but Starmer and his minions are giving the story oxygen.

I said at the time when they announced no more clothes they should have not said anything and just fronted it out (and repented in private). So they let the media write new headlines and ask new questions (why was it ok but not ok now).

Once that was running out of steam Starmer pops up and says yeah but that £20k was for my kid to study in peace. Now the headlines and questions are going to be one of hypocrisy and being out of touch.

This lot just don’t seem very good at politics. If they were good at policy you’d perhaps overlook that but then they come up with absolute winners like the WFA which overshadows anything they’ve done well. This is a very naive government run by a very naive leader.

On the positive side they can only get better as they learn how to do politics better, but for now they need to win a ceasefire to get control of the narrative. For that they need to shut up about donations and not feed headlines. Accept the country think you’re a duplicitous toad and hope the good you do eventually outweighs the current cluster fuck and people move on. We’re not that far away from our first old person to die due to cold and we all know what those headlines and questions are going to be about - the government needs to get a bit of a rest from the negative press before then.

 

[BlueHammer85]

It's a similar situation to party gate right or wrong doesn't come into it, it's the way it appears needs firm decisive action or will fester.

party gate during lockdown was wrong, illegal and f*ckin disgusting!

Kier Starmer getting a free pair of glasses and a ticket to Taylor Swift doesn't even compare.

 

[metalblue]

Partygate was illegal. Accepting a gift is not.

What was more damaging for him though? That he broke the law or that he was having a birthday party whilst folk couldn’t visit those dying in hospitals or care homes or attend their funerals.

People tend to react to emotions with politics (ie the optics) not the substance. If you think the headlines from the WFA is bad now, you wait for the first person to die yet the substance of the policy is unchanged.

 

[metalblue]

party gate during lockdown was wrong, illegal and f*ckin disgusting!

Kier Starmer getting a free pair of glasses and a ticket to Taylor Swift doesn't even compare.

Why was it disgusting?

(I bet your answer is emotionally driven)

 

[Lowtower]

why would they? would you turn down someone giving you concert or a footie ticket?

Yes

 

[flook]

I care more about what they're delivering for the country than if they got a new pair of glasses or a seat at a Taylor Swift concert.

or 20k accommodation so Starmers son could study for his GCSE's?

 

[Eccles Blue]

What these stupid media don't take into account is the fact that his son will now probably have to put up with bullying and 'teasing' about having gone to another house during the election.
Whatever you think of his father putting the child under pressure is not on. Teenagers are vulnerable at the best of times as we keep reading and hearing so lay off the children. JMHO

 

[metalblue]

Yes

Bollocks you’re a closet swiftie ;)

 

[Lowtower]

Partygate was illegal. Accepting a gift is not.

Agreed. Partygate is not comparable to this

These gifts though, like second jobs that MPs take, need stamping out.