The Labour Government

[bluenova]

It isn't happening to help people get healthy, if they wanted to do that the government would put more effort into making healthy food options cheaper and sorting out the other root causes of obesity. Eli Lilly isn't doing this out of the goodness of their heart, they want something for their £280m investment.


In answer to your other question, the whole of the Labour right are evil bastards who are only interested in what they themselves can gain from being in power. Same as the Tories.

That sounds like the argument you hear against gun crime in the US. Why not just sort out "mental health"? If you could sort out obesity with a few simple public health interventions, then someone would have done it by now.

From the actual article that was originally posted, "this Government is already taking action to give children a healthy start to life by banning junk food adverts targeted at kids. We’re also reforming the NHS so it catches problems earlier and prevents them from worsening." Obesity is an incredibly complex issue that is affecting pretty much everywhere in the World that is relatively wealthy.

The weight loss drugs *could* end up being the most successful public health intervention in the past hundred years, so it doesn't help anyone to simply dismiss it as political corruption, because you don't like the messenger.

 

[meltonblue]

I did hear one of the Tories (Cleverly?) say that the treasury have offered this option or every chancellor since Labour last left office and, in his words, “none have been naive enough” to agree to it. Which fits with your thoughts on the speed of the announcement and a general sense this government have been a bit naive.

You can forgive them naivety but once they realised their mistake instead of delaying and/or adjusting it they just kept punching down and that’s not forgivable.

That’s a bit disingenuous to say that implementing it previously would have been naive to be fair. It’s not the principle of it, it’s the implementation and application of it that’s the issue.

 

[Postman Pep]

 

[Vic]

Eh ? You posted a mad headline not me. The headline to the paragraph I posted was widely used across the media. For example.



Regulation doesn't take away the potential side effects.

Ozempic Side Effects: Common, Mild, and Serious

Ozempic is a brand-name drug used to treat type 2 diabetes. Learn about the common, mild, and serious side effects it can cause and how to manage them.

www.healthline.com

One of the drugs is called Mounjaro. The headline kind of writes itself if it goes tits up.down the line.

You'd never take any medicine if you read all the leaflets about possible side-effects. I've got tablets for one condition and that condition is also one possible side-effect.

 

[Kinkybyname]

You'd never take any medicine if you read all the leaflets about possible side-effects. I've got tablets for one condition and that condition is also one possible side-effect.

Tourette's?

 

[manclad]

Harsh, I prefer the term rotund or chubby.

Or maybe even stout.
I think Mel Smith did a sketch on
"Not The Nine O'clock News" when he played a darts player called "Fat Belly Gut Bucket '" where he was a member of The Stout Party !!

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

That stats for lefties post was absolute bullshit - there is nothing contradictory in the two headlines, yet they portray it as hypocrisy. The comments after suggest that most of their readers believe it was worse, and implied corruption.

I've put in the quote that he actually made, and a link to the press release from the University. It's an academic study into a drug that has been used for some time on the NHS, and which will consider health outcomes as it's primary focus. If you're concerned about the potential side effects, then surely you'd support a major research study - especially for drugs that are so in demand that there's a significant market for unregulated/fake versions?

Given the potential of the weight loss drugs, the very real issues society has with obesity, and the fact that these drugs aren't going to go away if we ignore them, what's your actual issue with the research?

May be ... just may be .... if people received a decent salary / level of benefits they wouldn't have to buy cheap crap food.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

What the fuck?

Sounds very Tory that.

Next they'll make child labour legal to "boost the economy"

I think the Tory approach would be to cut the benefits of the fatties so they can't afford to eat? - giving out injections smells too much like free medical care.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I think the Tory approach would be to cut the benefits of the fatties so they can't afford to eat? - giving out injections smells too much like free medical care.

A Bit ''socialist'' .....

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

A Bit ''socialist'' .....

It is a bit concerning that labour so early in this govt are seeking to solve 2 problems (fatties and assisted dying) with injections - it all seems a little 'dr mengele'. Having said that, if they come up with injections to reduce interest rates back to 0.5% and halve energy costs I'll be at the front of the queue