The Labour Government

[hilts]

At the end of the day we have the highest public transport prices in Europe. In 2022 when the last survey was done I think out of 36 cities across Europe London brum and Manchester sat 33rd 34th and 35th.
We continually pay more for shitter services.
It's just another regressive step.

 

[Vic]

But that's only £20 a week, the guy will go as high as you like in defence of his party. If the purples turned on pensioners working class people have no chance with them. The purples don't actually care about the working classes. They invested a lot time over the years complaining about austerity, the gap between rich and poor and the behaviour. of politicians.

Then their lot got in and now they don't care because they never really did and have to defend them now. They are as dishonest as well.... a politician really.

Now don't be silly. Tories' £2 deal expires in December with no commitment for any extension, so £3 is still cheaper than the average fare. It's still a cap, so up to bus companies whether to charge less for shorter journeys.

Who stopped councils subsidising bus fares in the first place? Thatcher. Fare in the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire was 5p until she made it illegal.

 

[mackenzie]

Manchester.

I thought I read the Manchester fares weren't going up though?

I rarely get a bus (had to a few weeks ago though as the Metrolink was out of action because of essential repairs for 6 weeks) but I only paid 2 quid a trip. Even if I got the bus every day to work that would only amount to.......20 quid a week. OK, I get it now ;-)
Those bloody pounds mount up!

 

[bluethrunthru]

seems the Tories spent jack shit on its upkeep and now labour are faced with the choice of fixing up an edifice for the look of it or have functioning Navy ships

Royal Navy academy where Charles and William trained faces axe

It was where the late Queen first met a dashing young naval cadet called Philip Mountbatten, and where the current King and the next one underwent military training.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[paulchapo]

I thought I read the Manchester fares weren't going up though?

I rarely get a bus (had to a few weeks ago though as the Metrolink was out of action because of essential repairs for 6 weeks) but I only paid 2 quid a trip. Even if I got the bus every day to work that would only amount to.......20 quid a week. OK, I get it now ;-)
Those bloody pounds mount up!

They are weekly tickets for the bus and tram combined, so nothing to do with the single journey cap.

 

[mackenzie]

They are weekly tickets for the bus and tram combined, so nothing to do with the single journey cap.

Yeah, I get that now
I'm familiar doing the zone thing when I travel on the tram.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

There needs to be "something" in tomorrow's budget for working people.
Life as a single working person (particularly if young) is getting horrendous. There's little way out of not living with parents, and mental health issues (especially for young men, who seem to have been marginalised and even openly mocked in recent years) needs to be addressed.
Here's hoping, but I understand it's a long haul.

It’s mooted that the minimum wage uplift will be about 6.7%, which is very good considering current inflation levels. Even better is the younger age, up to 21, where it’s estimated to be a 20% rise. That can only be a good thing, even if business might complain a little.

Then there’s the start of them tackling the housing issue. Would like to see this part of the infrastructure spend putting the ownership into regional government hands, with the ‘right to buy’ scheme being scrapped.

Not long to see how it goes and as long as we can see a way out of the current social crisis, it’ll be a good start.

Oh, and getting rid of the double budgets. Having 2 a year gave me no confidence at all as it showed that the government were either micromanaging or didn’t have any control of their own finances.

 

[mackenzie]

It’s mooted that the minimum wage uplift will be about 6.7%, which is very good considering current inflation levels. Even better is the younger age, up to 21, where it’s estimated to be a 20% rise. That can only be a good thing, even if business might complain a little.

Then there’s the start of them tackling the housing issue. Would like to see this part of the infrastructure spend putting the ownership into regional government hands, with the ‘right to buy’ scheme being scrapped.

Not long to see how it goes and as long as we can see a way out of the current social crisis, it’ll be a good start.

Oh, and getting rid of the double budgets. Having 2 a year gave me no confidence at all as it showed that the government were either micromanaging or didn’t have any control of their own finances.

I agree.
There's a much bigger picture here.

 

[hilts]

Now don't be silly. Tories' £2 deal expires in December with no commitment for any extension, so £3 is still cheaper than the average fare. It's still a cap, so up to bus companies whether to charge less for shorter journeys.

Who stopped councils subsidising bus fares in the first place? Thatcher. Fare in the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire was 5p until she made it illegal.

It expires correct, doesn't mean anything as they have extended it as they can so your first effort is absolutely pointless. Don't be silly. £3 is cheaper than the average fare, it's not it's been capped lower for some time, pointless again, don't be silly. So Thatcher did something in the 80s pmsl pointless deflection. Don't be silly.

We had the chuckle brothers, mossidewho made it the 3 stooges. Its becoming quite the clan VicTory:-)

Stop being silly.

 

[stonerblue]

He wasn't threatened though was he? He was drunk and probably couldn't control his anger. Stop rationalising thuggish behaviour.

Have you got the audio?