The Labour Government

Is this another sarcasm? Because it as sure as hell looks like it should be my fellow kettle.

Am i on here moaning and groaning and being pessimistic about every single government policy or proposal ? let's face it - no matter what they do on migration and boat crossings its never enough is it ? 800k reduced to 400k and its still 'THATS FAR TOO HIGH! ' would it even matter what number it was? its constant anger and moaning - must be tiring for you guys.
 
You mean the poor lambs will have to make do on a cool tax free £500k and 60% of what is left over? The horror of Starmer’s Britain laid bare. Shocking.

Equity release is the last thing anyone should look to do - it’ll be one of the next big scandals, dodgy practice and advice. I have had to deal with one myself on behalf of elderly relatives, let’s just say they fully removed all charges and waived all early redemption penalties.

Incident I hope he qualified that he wasn’t giving financial advice.
 
Depends what side of the debate you’re on. If there’s a 50/50 split, half are gonna be pissed off, as shown by the amount of posts from one side of the argument, and lack of posts from the other.

I didn’t ask if governments pissed people off, I asked if you thought that was their job given you said along the lines of they must be doing something right if it pisses people off.
 
I just cannot see where the benefits lay.

What are the forecast projections on the number of immigrants that will come to this country over the next couple of years and how many do we expect to return (assuming the French will have volunteers to come here spilling over the top? What are the spending/savings forecasts> How will they ever know it is working if there are no forecast measures to hold the executed plan against?

This really does look like another Government half baked hare brained scheme that, yet again (conservatives included) has not been fully thought through.

Surely it is not unreasonable to ask the government to provide some performance indicators and targets that will enable them to demonstrate it is working?
Could we ask all the Europen countries that these people have passed through how they managed to get to Calais without anybody stopping them?
 
Don't you get bored of constantly moaning all the time ?
If you lot stop banging on about how you'd like to take more money off people other than yourselves, I wouldn't have anything to moan about.

What would really cheer me up would be if one or two of you stood up and said you'd like to pay more tax. Rather than constantly being generous with other people's money.
 
Perhaps that is the problem. Everyone thinks everyone else is taking the piss and so no one does anything. You think the self-employed are taking the piss, the self-employed think PAYE workers are taking the piss, PAYE workers in the private sector think PAYE workers in the public sector are taking the piss and Pensioners want the good old days and their youth back and are pissed at everyone under the age of 60.

Still, on the bright side it is a lovely day.

Well I know plenty of self employed and they tell me the things they do but I'm interested to know how PAYE manage to take the piss and not pay their tax.
 
Could we ask all the Europen countries that these people have passed through how they managed to get to Calais without anybody stopping them?
Its the problem with Schengen mate. There's barely any border checks and in some places no border at all - you can just walk across.
 
Well I know plenty of self employed and they tell me the things they do but I'm interested to know how PAYE manage to take the piss and not pay their tax.
Indeed. Without fraudulently filling out your tax return, there's nothing you can do to evade tax if you're in PAYE.
 
I didn’t ask if governments pissed people off, I asked if you thought that was their job given you said along the lines of they must be doing something right if it pisses people off.
It’s like when I rarely read/listen to a media report. There’s me thinking we’re moving a step forward and all I hear is how the country is going further back. Come on here, exactly the same.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not the forever optimist, but I do see this country in a far better shape than it has been for years. Industrial planning, tackling the social framework of the country, better relations with our neighbours and deals done that were being held up, for whatever reason. On the financial side, markets seem happy with the way the Chancellor is going about her business, interest rates are coming down steadily, and we will soon see how their house building targets are doing once the various bills are passed.

And, again, I can see exactly where they’ve fucked up. Although we need reform of the welfare bill, theirs wasn’t the way to do it. Shooting themselves in the foot seems to be a prerequisite of this government and having a strategy that everybody was aware of would go some way so that people could understand them.

That’s how I see it and I’m fairly relaxed about this government at the moment, yet others seem to be screaming from the rooftops about all the fires burning through the country. I can only assume that it’s not about policies from some, and more of a hate on Labour, Starmer, Reeves, Rayner, etc, or anybody not associated with the Tories/RW/rich people of the country, and therefore foam at the mouth every time Labour, Starmer, etc, are mentioned.

It’s either that or people are expecting an immediate turnaround for the country after many years of ineptitude and neglect. Surely it can’t be that, can it?
 
Forgive me for having an opinion. Seems you're unfamiliar with the word "suspect". It's not the same as "know", you know.

I'll look forward to you not posting any of your opinions on the thread.
Nice editing of my post where someone else has an opinion and is sarcastically told by you that he isn't an expert.
 
How many people who post on this thread regularly would you think, I bet he'd be good to go out for a few scoops and a laugh with

I'd go out with everyone on here...
all at once...
be f**king hilarious...
apart from having to explain to our partners why they need to come and collect us from the station.
 
It’s like when I rarely read/listen to a media report. There’s me thinking we’re moving a step forward and all I hear is how the country is going further back. Come on here, exactly the same.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not the forever optimist, but I do see this country in a far better shape than it has been for years. Industrial planning, tackling the social framework of the country, better relations with our neighbours and deals done that were being held up, for whatever reason. On the financial side, markets seem happy with the way the Chancellor is going about her business, interest rates are coming down steadily, and we will soon see how their house building targets are doing once the various bills are passed.

And, again, I can see exactly where they’ve fucked up. Although we need reform of the welfare bill, theirs wasn’t the way to do it. Shooting themselves in the foot seems to be a prerequisite of this government and having a strategy that everybody was aware of would go some way so that people could understand them.

That’s how I see it and I’m fairly relaxed about this government at the moment, yet others seem to be screaming from the rooftops about all the fires burning through the country. I can only assume that it’s not about policies from some, and more of a hate on Labour, Starmer, Reeves, Rayner, etc, or anybody not associated with the Tories/RW/rich people of the country, and therefore foam at the mouth every time Labour, Starmer, etc, are mentioned.

It’s either that or people are expecting an immediate turnaround for the country after many years of ineptitude and neglect. Surely it can’t be that, can it?

All fair points mate. Like the tories before them they could solve cancer and some people would still moan about them doing it.

They’ve done some very good things, some good things, some not so good things and some absolutely mad things. My main concerns right now is they lack a coherent mission, we seem to be exactly back where we were this time last year guessing what Reeves is going to do in October (and that’s not a good thing), and they are (rightly or wrongly) perceived as weak.

But the sky hasn’t fallen in.
 
This is assuming they build so many that housing supply outstrips demand? Do you think that is going to happen Vic?
It doesn't assume anything. There is huge unfulfilled demand for housing, way more than the Labour target. In economic terms, demand is depressed because of high prices, but at the right price there would be more demand. And that's without the housebuilders operating a cartel to share commercial information.
 
If you lot stop banging on about how you'd like to take more money off people other than yourselves, I wouldn't have anything to moan about.

What would really cheer me up would be if one or two of you stood up and said you'd like to pay more tax. Rather than constantly being generous with other people's money.
I tried it a few days ago-I had one reply I think.
 
If you lot stop banging on about how you'd like to take more money off people other than yourselves, I wouldn't have anything to moan about.

What would really cheer me up would be if one or two of you stood up and said you'd like to pay more tax. Rather than constantly being generous with other people's money.

I’m more than happy for my tax to go up personally.
 

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