The Labour Government

BrianW said:
People constantly say: 'You shouldn't have children if you can't afford them.'

Same people: 'We shouldn't have immigrants.'

They just can't see the inconsistency inherent in their position.

It's like saying 'City should win the PL each year' and 'City should always have an English manager and not have any incoming transfer above £20 million.'
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Which people say we shouldn't have any immigrants?
 
hilts said:
Which people say we shouldn't have any immigrants?
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Nobody, but there has definitely been a lack of consistency in the stated aims of the right wing in the UK over the past 10 years. Starting with pensions, you want a system where pensions increase by the maximum possible amount indefinitely, at a time where the largest generation is retiring and there won't be the working-age population to support them. That's fine as long as you can increase the working-age population to support such an outlay, but they also claim to want to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands. So instead, you could rely on increasing the birth rate, but they've done everything possible to disincentivise that too, from capping child benefit to doing very little to address huge childcare costs that parents are forced to pay because it's impossible to survive on a single wage and have one parent stay at home nowadays.

Say what you like about Viktor Orban, but at least he combines his anti-immigration rhetoric with incentives for the local population to have more children. You see being anti-immigrant is fine if you're going to invest properly in enabling Brits to do all of these jobs. I'd be delighted if, instead of having to bring him thousands of doctors and nurses from overseas, thousands of British kids were given the opportunity to train (requires more long-term thinking though), but the thing about right wing politics is that they consistently combine an anti-immigrant rhetoric with fuck all investment in the local population, so all you're left with is public services and businesses with massive skill shortages (which is why even when they spout anti-immigrant rhetoric, the Tories rarely actually do anything to reduce it, because they know it'll make things harder for businesses).
 
metalblue said:
Fixed for you
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Are you not going to give the task force any credit this next five yrs ? Going for the smugglers is great , as well as talking to european heads and going to come up with a joint plan , much more than the tories did , they seemed to hate working with europe when that is the only sensible thing to do
 
kaz7 said:
Are you not going to give the task force any credit this next five yrs ? Going for the smugglers is great , as well as talking to european heads and going to come up with a joint plan , much more than the tories did , they seemed to hate working with europe when that is the only sensible thing to do
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Agree, but the only way you can judge the success of anti people smuggling operations is in the number of small boat crossings. If they drop its being successful.
 
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