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inbetween said:
I'll actually hold my hands up, you are correct, but this makes things even worse and not better.

We processed 75,000 last year, how on earth is this costing us £4bn+ per year, £55,000+ per asylum seeker?

My last argument still stands, I don't see any reason to attract further arrivals by opening the UK to the world and we can reduce costs by just resourcing to process new/existing claims faster.

I mean blimey, you could employ 1,000 new people each on £100k a year at the Home Office and it'd be cheaper! It's actually technically a job creation industry if anything else but naturally it's the taxpayer who suffers.
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Couple of points

We cant get rid of people applying for asylum under the UN Refugee Convention unless we exit the Convention (didn't see the Tories campaign for that did we). Whilst the world is a bad place they will continue to come. (perhaps we should stop selling weapons eh? .... but thats a bit radical)

Its costing that much because the money is being spent on accommodation / food etc ... the asylum seekers get very little else as support... you can bet however that the accommodation / Bibby Barge are all owned by Tory supporters.

We did have the people to process asylum applications (over 8000 caseworkers ) sadly the Tories slashed the numbers by 2/3 and then (surprise surprise) wondered why the backlog of 18000 from the last Labour Government jumped to over 166000 and had to be put up in hotels.

Irrespective of the above ... those that want to enter the country illegally as economic migrants will always try and enter and beat the system.
 
Yeah, it’s the day we see what they intend to do with our pensions. This will be interesting. Converge the Local Government ones into easier manageable lots and then hey presto the auction begins. One mad cap scheme after another.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Can anyone tell me what they are doing in relation to this pension fund thing, are they allowing them to use it for investment, what are the chances of the ones been lost? Seems a bit dodgy especially when you see people with private pensions who lost everything, my mates dad included.
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The BBC news said today we find out the changes to pensions plans, if you have several jobs it’s hard to keep track of your pension pot, sadly they get lost

Edit: Reeves is going to unlock 4 billion pounds of investment from pensions. Creating a Pension Mega Fund. I think it’s merging private pensions.
From the Guardian
“Rachel Reeves will announce plans to merge local government retirement schemes into “megafunds” as she tries to revive long-running efforts to overhaul the UK’s public pension system.

The chancellor will tell an audience of City leaders and chief executives on Thursday that she will introduce a new pensions bill next year that will aim to pool assets from the 86 separate local government pension schemes (LGPS) into eight funds worth about £50bn by 2030.


Grouped together, the LGPS represents one of the world’s largest defined-benefit schemes, with 6.5 million members and £360bn in assets

The decision is meant to mirror similar setups in Australia and Canada, where public sector pension schemes have been consolidated into larger funds that are managed in-house by professional investors. The idea is that retirement funds can then invest larger sums of money into a wider range of riskier and long-term assets like infrastructure, startups and private equity, all while saving on expensive fees paid to bankers, lawyers and advisers.

Reeves’s inaugural Mansion House speech will also confirm plans to combine smaller defined contribution schemes across the country into pools of £25bn to £50bn.”
 
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Does anyone know if today’s proposed pension overhaul will make the LGPS a less rewarding scheme?

I’ve applied for a job which offers the LGPS and if the changes are gonna fuck it over I guess I need to rethink, because the pension is frankly what attracted me to the role.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Couple of points

We cant get rid of people applying for asylum under the UN Refugee Convention unless we exit the Convention (didn't see the Tories campaign for that did we). Whilst the world is a bad place they will continue to come. (perhaps we should stop selling weapons eh? .... but thats a bit radical)

Its costing that much because the money is being spent on accommodation / food etc ... the asylum seekers get very little else as support... you can bet however that the accommodation / Bibby Barge are all owned by Tory supporters.

We did have the people to process asylum applications (over 8000 caseworkers ) sadly the Tories slashed the numbers by 2/3 and then (surprise surprise) wondered why the backlog of 18000 from the last Labour Government jumped to over 166000 and had to be put up in hotels.

Irrespective of the above ... those that want to enter the country illegally as economic migrants will always try and enter and beat the system.
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I'm not asking to get rid of people, I'm asking us to avoid encouraging literal potentially unlimited numbers by opening the doors.

We cannot handle the problem as it is because every single public service is on its arse so those arguing to accept more refugees are just stupid or they know they won't be the ones paying. Their best possible argument to resource for this problem is to stick it on top of the other £500bn that we need to find from the rich.

However, they will be paying in the end because new resources will have to go to processing, feeding and housing those refugees. That means that the NHS, schools, transport and all of the improvements promised by Labour will have to wait.

I totally agree that the Tories have burnt the system to the ground but then they've burn everything to the ground. That does not equate to putting the rest of the world first, it's in fact the opposite.

Ask yourself this, why do we spend £4.2bn on helping 75,000 migrants per year but just £1-2bn on helping the 300,000 homeless people?
 
Eric Hitchmough said:
Does anyone know if today’s proposed pension overhaul will make the LGPS a less rewarding scheme?

I’ve applied for a job which offers the LGPS and if the changes are gonna fuck it over I guess I need to rethink, because the pension is frankly what attracted me to the role.
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Reeves is making a statement to the mansion house tonight any changes should be to parliament so we might have to wait a bit longer for the details of how it will affect us.
 
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