The Labour Government

[BTH]

I think most people can see how it works.

He’s taken the piss so much with freebies over the past few years, and his popularity ratings are at such abysmal levels, that he daren’t accept anything free. At least for another six months or so.

He’s probably never played a game of golf in his life and had no intention of accepting membership anyway. But clearly he wants this publicised, and the fact that his dwindling bunch of supporters have nothing better to highlight tells its own story.

You sound like you need help, but let's get one thing staight: the Tories rinsed this country for 14 long years. It was on an industrial scale; them, their mates, their relatives etc. I think most people could see how that worked, so much so that the whole stinking rotten lot of them were booted out in July.

So what "freebies over the past few years" has Sir Keir Starmer "taken the piss so much" with?

And what makes you think "clearly he wants this publicised" that he'd go to The Torygraph??

Call me old fashioned but I like a few facts, rather than some bitter old Tory serving up a pack of lies...

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Tell me, when we play a derby match are you equally as rag as you are Blue given that you are so anti-partisan?

Not only that; it’s only a game of football and the world is about to die, so might as well ridicule everybody as it really moves things forwards.

 

[Brewster's millions]

You sound like you need help, but let's get one thing staight: the Tories rinsed this country for 14 long years. It was on an industrial scale; them, their mates, their relatives etc. I think most people could see how that worked, so much so that the whole stinking rotten lot of them were booted out in July.

So what "freebies over the past few years" has Sir Keir Starmer "taken the piss so much" with?

And what makes you think "clearly he wants this publicised" that he'd go to The Torygraph??

Call me old fashioned but I like a few facts, rather than some bitter old Tory serving up a pack of lies...

I’m merely stating the facts, which is ironic given that you claim to like them.

The league table of MP gifts over the last parliament. Starmer’s abysmal polling, which one would think is undisputed, but not with a few on here it seems.

You can claim ignorance of these, and pretend that you’re unaware of them, but it’s not a good look I’m afraid. Makes you look a bit silly in fact.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Or that he gets criticised if he takes a freebie and gets criticised for not taking a freebie. I.e. they will find any possible stick to beat him with.

I’m not criticising him for refusing the membership - I personally hate golf, so it’s just about the last thing I’d want - but I think any reasonable person can see why he would want to avoid receiving any freebies for the foreseeable.

 

[hampshireblue]

I know they said they wouldn’t do it but why nit just raise income tax by 1p, instead of all these other taxes, surely it would cover any black hole. In fact the whole tax system needs changing, why nit just have one high income tax rate and fuck off VAT etc Cleverer people than me will probably tell me why it wouldn’t work, but it seems that all these “tax dodges” could be wiped out by simplifying the system.

I agree the whole system needs to be more progressive and the very lowest tax rates should always be for actually going out to work and earning it.

I don't know why politicians of all persuasions insist in backing themselves into corners, be it over tax, VAT, NI or Brexit dates-it invariably ends badly or just a fudge. Labour are now reaping the rewards for a stupid manifesto commitment. To deal with the present shortfall, a 1-2% increase in VAT would have helped considerably as it mainly affects discretionary spending and therefore those that can afford it the most. At the same time they could have taken a couple of % off fuel bills and the like to help the mantra that essentials shouldn't actually be taxed in that way-if at all.

I actually think keeping NI is important as it is still the thing people point(incorrectly sometimes) to when it comes to the state pension. Break that link and belief and it makes it far easier for a government to tinker with the pension.

 

[hilts]

Tell me, when we play a derby match are you equally as rag as you are Blue given that you are so anti-partisan?

The fact you equate a football match to politics says more about you than it does me, I say posters are wrong for picking sides and defending them endlessly and you give that analogy. That is one hilarious post there fella
Least you're not lying about your personal circumstances to protect your 'side'

As I'm.neither a blue or a red in this context it doesn't even makes sense.

Thats pretty dumb I mean look which denialist liked it.

 

[hilts]

Not only that; it’s only a game of football and the world is about to die, so might as well ridicule everybody as it really moves things forwards.

Another lie i see why you and blueuntrue are besties:-)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

The fact you equate a football match to politics says more about you than it does me, I say posters are wrong for picking sides and defending them endlessly and you give that analogy. That is one hilarious post there fella
Least you're not lying about your personal circumstances to protect your 'side'

As I'm.neither a blue or a red in this context it doesn't even makes sense.

Thats pretty dumb I mean look which denialisr liked it.

denialisr

What a nickname. Must have taken you hours to come up with that.

You’ve become a both sides Swiss cheese wannabe.

Sad.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

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[hilts]

denialisr

What a nickname. Must have taken you hours to come up with that.

You’ve become a both sides Swiss cheese wannabe.

Sad.

Not really the T is next to the R when typing clever you

Sigh.