The Labour Government

[Churchlawtonblue]

You’ve lost me mate. GDP is completely different to government expenditure, that’s the total value of the goods and services of a country, the second is just how governments spend their budget.

You’ve lost me mate. GDP is completely different to government expenditure, that’s the total value of the goods and services of a country, the second is just how governments spend their budget.

OK sorry understood those figures still look high tho.

Check these out.

What does the government spend money on? | Institute for Fiscal Studies

In 2022–23, government spending was almost £1,200 billion, or around 45% of GDP. Health spending is a growing share of the total.

ifs.org.uk

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The ships are fucked and only used on paper to appease our NATO allies.

Glad to see us being truthful, at last. May go some way to sorting our Defence.

I don't think so, Albion has just had a refit?

 

[Brewster's millions]

I’ll believe when I read it. Really hope to be proven wrong because increase in defence spending was something I wanted to see in the main parties manifesto’s

Given the track record so far, there seems to be more chance of Labour doing something if it wasn’t in their manifesto.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Anyway, good chatting with you fellas. I've got some work to do tonight sadly so must go.

I've got another great topic to throw into the mix soon!

 

[i kne albert davy]

Do you know how many we have for each carrier? and what is there normal operational capacity. I believe both are currently way short.

We have had both carriers for several years now, how long does it take to order F35s? Does it really take 4 or 5 years?

Do the Chinese and Yanks build carriers and then put them to sea with 25% or 30% of the planes they are designed to carry.

Sounds to me as if those in charge couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery?

Each of HMS Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales can operate 40 aircraft both I believe will operate 28 aircraft in peace time and both are currently at sea working up with an air group embarked. Magnificent pieces of engineering to be fair.

 

[meltonblue]

OK sorry understood those figures still look high tho.

Check these out.

What does the government spend money on? | Institute for Fiscal Studies

In 2022–23, government spending was almost £1,200 billion, or around 45% of GDP. Health spending is a growing share of the total.

ifs.org.uk

That was the year before, remember government spending was all over the place in the Covid years.

The graph I put was from the government website so I’d hope it was right!

 

[metalblue]

Do you know how many we have for each carrier? and what is there normal operational capacity. I believe both are currently way short.

We have had both carriers for several years now, how long does it take to order F35s? Does it really take 4 or 5 years?

Do the Chinese and Yanks build carriers and then put them to sea with 25% or 30% of the planes they are designed to carry.

Sounds to me as if those in charge couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery?

35 F35s each carrier and we’ve only have 35 delivered so far I believe out of a total of 170 odd. Mostly operated by the RAF with around 15 allocated to the carriers.

I never understood why we didn’t develop a VTOL replacement for the harrier and brought from the yanks. Our planes (be sole UK or joint development with partners) have always been superior to US offerings and that’s not intended to offend the US equipment as it is excellent.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I don't think so, Albion has just had a refit?

The optimum words there are ‘I don’t think so’. Refer to the second part of that sentence, it’s been going on for years.

 

[metalblue]

Each of HMS Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales can operate 40 aircraft both I believe will operate 28 aircraft in peace time and both are currently at sea working up with an air group embarked. Magnificent pieces of engineering to be fair.

No thanks to the political interference in their construction. Certainly something to be proud of like all our armed forces really. They need more money.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

HMS Albion (L14) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

HMS Bulwark (L15) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

According to that, Bulwark hasn't been useable for 4 years.