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Looks like the 2.8% pay recommendation for the Nurses/Teachers etc isn’t going down well. With inflation predicted to be 2.6% next year, I’m not sure it’s that bad!


Nurses “rejected” the 5.5% this year as being enough so yes it’s bad. The RCN have described this £2 a day increase as deeply offensive. JDs said they’d strike again if the pay for next year didn’t meet their expectations. The nurses will walk out 100% next year if this is what they are given.

Still I’m sure the spin doctors will add “stood up to union pressure” on the “what Labour have done” list when they walk out.
 
Nurses “rejected” the 5.5% this year as being enough so yes it’s bad. The RCN have described this £2 a day increase as deeply offensive. JDs said they’d strike again if the pay for next year didn’t meet their expectations. The nurses will walk out 100% next year if this is what they are given.

Still I’m sure the spin doctors will add “stood up to union pressure” on the “what Labour have done” list when they walk out.

It's theatre. Can't be seen to cave in but a more favourable offer will be tabled next year. Whether it is still derisory remains to be seen.

But expect it won't be settled until Autumn again.
 
Looks like the 2.8% pay recommendation for the Nurses/Teachers etc isn’t going down well. With inflation predicted to be 2.6% next year, I’m not sure it’s that bad!


From the Labour friendly BBC. Any news room under the direction of Davie will always look for the Labour negative angle. Look at Politics today that has one seat reserved daily for a Tory ( often an ex- Tory MP ) and a Tufton Street stooge plus a Reform MP - mostly Tice or Farage ( if you notice since Habib left Reform he has not been invited back) yet the Lib Dems with 70 odd MP's have not had a lookin since the GE
 
When junior doctors are getting 20%-plus pay rises, and the Chancellor describes the sums involved as a ‘drop in the ocean’, then it’s hardly a surprise when nurses question why they’re only receiving 2.8%.

Highly predictable, I would say.

Maybe but when does it all end? We can’t just keep agreeing to pay deals all the time.

How much does a nurse get paid? I don’t know.

I do know that my teacher wife gets £29000 a year for 3 days a week and 13 weeks holiday. I think that’s pretty good.
 
Apart from a few fuck ups, they’re doing well. Pity the the RW media won’t talk about these things.

Time to look after ourselves, will see how it plays out when outside influences have their say.

We are prime targets.
 
Looks like the 2.8% pay recommendation for the Nurses/Teachers etc isn’t going down well. With inflation predicted to be 2.6% next year, I’m not sure it’s that bad!

In ordinary circumstances, a raise in line with inflation is all any of us can realistically expect. But you've got to look at this in context of a decade of below inflation pay rises.
 
Maybe but when does it all end? We can’t just keep agreeing to pay deals all the time.

How much does a nurse get paid? I don’t know.

I do know that my teacher wife gets £29000 a year for 3 days a week and 13 weeks holiday. I think that’s pretty good.
No easy answers unfortunately, and the arguments around real pay erosion are of course entirely dependent on the timeframe in question.

But the government’s actions in relation to junior doctors have greatly complicated the situation.

The comment from Reeves in particular - regarding the cost of industrial action across the NHS - and tacitly acknowledging the junior doctor pay demands based on a flawed inflation measure, were reckless.

But then of course it suited the Labour Party for junior doctors to be on strike in the lead up to the election, so it’s not that surprising that such a generous deal was struck so quickly once they got into power.
 
No easy answers unfortunately, and the arguments around real pay erosion are of course entirely dependent on the timeframe in question.

But the government’s actions in relation to junior doctors have greatly complicated the situation.

The comment from Reeves in particular - regarding the cost of industrial action across the NHS - and tacitly acknowledging the junior doctor pay demands based on a flawed inflation measure, were reckless.

But then of course it suited the Labour Party for junior doctors to be on strike in the lead up to the election, so it’s not that surprising that such a generous deal was struck so quickly once they got into power.

Exactly this mate. There was an understanding in the NHS that most were underpaid, the collective if you like, but as soon as the JDs were given 22% there was outrage from nurses and that unspoken collective was broken.

If Reeves, Streeting or Starmer underestimate the outrage with nurses right now they are in for a rude awakening. As @Mr Kobayashi says hopefully it’s all just a bit of theatre and it gets settled in time but nurses striking on a labour’s government watch is going to put to bed this notion that Labour are the “party” of the NHS.
 

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