The Labour Government

[Mr Kobayashi]

Doesn’t actually matter if they use the NHS or private healthcare.

Still the taxpayer who picks up the bill, and putting them through private healthcare reduces capacity and the ability to clear NHS backlogs by using private.

Price of everything but value of nothing.

There are clear public health reasons why we might want to treat asylum seekers or people from overseas and prevent infections to the rest of the population.

It's not a general rule that people wait months or years for treatment. That's for surgery. And there are often good clinical reasons for delays anyway, e.g. obesity or not quitting smoking before an operation.

Any evidence that the asylum seekers are having knee and hip replacements or is it just an irrelevant point?

 

[Brewster's millions]

Price of everything but value of nothing.

There are clear public health reasons why we might want to treat asylum seekers or people from overseas and prevent infections to the rest of the population.

It's not a general rule that people wait months or years for treatment. That's for surgery. And there are often good clinical reasons for delays anyway, e.g. obesity or not quitting smoking before an operation.

Any evidence that the asylum seekers are having knee and hip replacements or is it just an irrelevant point?

Got to laugh at this.

First point, which appears obvious to anyone but yourself, is why on earth would we want these people coming into the country given the risk of infectious disease? Did that question ever occur to you? You’re not really selling it.

As for the rest of it, your suggestion that the NHS only makes use of private sector facilities for surgery is complete bollocks.

Consultations, scans, mental health facilities, dentistry, outpatient care. All areas where the NHS makes use of the private sector, all areas with finite supply and funded by the taxpayer. They’re the facts of the matter.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Got to laugh at this.

First point, which appears obvious to anyone but yourself, is why on earth would we want these people coming into the country given the risk of infectious disease? Did that question ever occur to you? You’re not really selling it.

People come here anyway regardless of whether we treat them. The party you voted for decided to put them in concentration camp conditions which spread diseases more.

It's not usually stamped on someone's passport if they have HIV or Hepatitis. Perhaps we should also limit regular migrants with these infections?

As for the rest of it, your suggestion that the NHS only makes use of private sector facilities for surgery is complete bollocks.

I didn't say that. I said that's the waiting list. What other treatment do you think these asylum seekers are getting? Talking therapies for their war trauma?

Consultations, scans, mental health facilities, dentistry, outpatient care. All areas where the NHS makes use of the private sector, all areas with finite supply and funded by the taxpayer. They’re the facts of the matter.

When was it practically possible to sign up for an NHS dentist in the last few years? You're mental.

 

[Brewster's millions]

People come here anyway regardless of whether we treat them. The party you voted for decided to put them in concentration camp conditions which spread diseases more.

It's not usually stamped on someone's passport if they have HIV or Hepatitis. Perhaps we should also limit regular migrants with these infections?




I didn't say that. I said that's the waiting list. What other treatment do you think these asylum seekers are getting? Talking therapies for their war trauma?




When was it practically possible to sign up for an NHS dentist in the last few years? You're mental.

‘Concentration camp conditions’

You’re really very silly aren’t you? Immature and silly.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

‘Concentration camp conditions’

You’re really very silly aren’t you? Immature and silly.

Not silly at all.

Why did they close it down?

I attribute this to stupidity and ignorance not malice. But the conditions were just as I described.

Diphtheria: Home Office ignored offer of help to manage migrant centre outbreak, say public health leaders

The diphtheria outbreak linked to the Manston migrant processing centre in Kent “could and should have been prevented” but was made “far worse” by the Home Office, public health leaders have said. More than 70 suspected cases of diphtheria have been linked to the centre in recent weeks, and...

www.bmj.com

Diphtheria outbreak confirmed at asylum seeker centre in Kent

‘Very small’ number of cases reported at Manston airfield, where about 3,000 people are staying in tents

www.theguardian.com

Diphtheria is not the only reported infection on site. There was previously an outbreak of norovirus, while scabies is widespread, according to asylum seekers who have been processed at Manston recently.

 

[BTH]

Left, Right or Centre the issue of ILLEGAL immigrants & General immigration is a major issue for the country.

ILLEGAL immigration/immigrants must be stopped /actioned by prevention, deterrent and removal.

No prison or custody at the tax payers expense ....DEPORTATION.

Controlled immigration must be determined by what the country and its 'businesses' need, controlled by visas, financial independence, contracted employment, medical insurance .

This small island's vital public services were not designed for ' non contributors' and medical tourists.

Our vital public services are collapsing/have collapsed....NHS, Education, Prisons, Law & Order, Border Control etc.

UK is being invaded most days of the year by largely young, males,in designer clothes with mobile phone, whose first action when they're mid channel is to drop their Passport and ID overboard.

Enoch Powell was prescient and we must do things whilst we can otherwise our children & grandchildren will be living in an increasingly violent, lawless and alien country whose services are broken beyond repair.

What a ranty little post with zero evidence to support your Daily Hatemailesque claims.

Makes you wonder why anyone would want to come to an island populated by people like yourself.

But no doubt you think Farage is the answer?

 

[TinFoilHat]

Energy bills through the roof thanks to exploiting private companies taking the piss.

Food Bills up as Supermarkets price gouge.

Council tax up because they are underfunded.

NHS fucked due to chronic underfunding by the Tories who used COVID to profit.

Having to choose between heating/eating/petrol whilst working in a job you're being taken the piss out of by the poverty stricken hedge fund that runs it.

Must be Samir in his dinghy's fault...

 

[blueinsa]

Energy bills through the roof thanks to exploiting private companies taking the piss.

Food Bills up as Supermarkets price gouge.

Council tax up because they are underfunded.

NHS fucked due to chronic underfunding by the Tories who used COVID to profit.

Having to choose between heating/eating/petrol whilst working in a job you're being taken the piss out of by the poverty stricken hedge fund that runs it.

Must be Samir in his dinghy's fault...

Nah, we can blame Putin/Russia/Covid and shit government for most of what you list.

Illegal immigration is a totally separate issue affecting not only us, but the EU and beyond and it’s just not sustainable, if for no other reason it’s illegal.

It has to be tackled. That’s not a right wing view, it’s now a political mainstream view and rightly so.

 

[mackenzie]

This recent footage of homes being raided and lots being put on aircraft and being taken back to wherever they came from. That's a good thing isn't it?

 

[blueinsa]

This recent footage of homes being raided and lots being put on aircraft and being taken back to wherever they came from. That's a good thing isn't it?

Depends.

Tories in charge and it’s evidence of a racist, fascist Nazi state.

Labour and its them doing what’s right.

Personally I don’t care what government we have, it’s the right thing to do with illegal immigrants who have no right to be here.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

What a ranty little post with zero evidence to support your Daily Hatemailesque claims.

Makes you wonder why anyone would want to come to an island populated by people like yourself.

But no doubt you think Farage is the answer?

ILLEGAL !!

What don't you understand about ILLEGAL IMMINGHAM ??

Do you accept ILLEGAL activities in your community, work place, pub ??

Are you happy to have your children or grandchildren subject to ILLEGAL experiences ??

People, mainly young men with no UK relatives, are, travelling across multiple international borders and the English Channel, dumping their passports and ID overboard, to ILLEGALLY enter a foreign country.

Why......because they can access the UK benefits system WITHOUT contributions.

As a matter of interest, how many ILLEGAL immigrants have you provided free accommodation and keep to ?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

ILLEGAL !!

What don't you understand about ILLEGAL IMMINGHAM ??

Do you accept ILLEGAL activities in your community, work place, pub ??

Are you happy to have your children or grandchildren subject to ILLEGAL experiences ??

People, mainly young men with no UK relatives, are, travelling across multiple international borders and the English Channel, dumping their passports and ID overboard, to ILLEGALLY enter a foreign country.

Why......because they can access the UK benefits system WITHOUT contributions.

As a matter of interest, how many ILLEGAL immigrants have you provided free accommodation and keep to ?

You sound like an old man full of hate and rage. Scared of the world outside. All because some people with darker complexions turned up.

The world isn't black and white. There are shades of grey. Perhaps you could go and meet those so called illegals and tell them how much you hate them. And how they must stay in a warzone or destitution to keep you from blowing your top.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There’s a bit of re-writing of the narrative here.

Nobody was advocating keeping the people that failed in their asylum claim.

The Tories simply stopped processing claims to create the backlog and make it their main election issue, whilst spending hundreds of millions of pounds on trying to send a few hundred to Rwanda.

Labour are now processing the claims and attempting to clear the backlog. The ones that don’t qualify get rightly returned.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

You sound like an old man full of hate and rage. Scared of the world outside. All because some people with darker complexions turned up.

The world isn't black and white. There are shades of grey. Perhaps you could go and meet those so called illegals and tell them how much you hate them. And how they must stay in a warzone or destitution to keep you from blowing your top.

Don't be such a fucking presumptious ignoramus.

I couldn't give three fucks about colour, religion or any other semantics.

ILLEGAL immigrants are here ILLEGALLY....what bit of ILLEGAL don't you understand ??

You haven't answered my question....how many ILLEGAL immigrants are you housing and providing keep for ??

 

[Gone for a Burton]

There’s a bit of re-writing of the narrative here.

Nobody was advocating keeping the people that failed in their asylum claim.

The Tories simply stopped processing claims to create the backlog and make it their main election issue, whilst spending hundreds of millions of pounds on trying to send a few hundred to Rwanda.

Labour are now processing the claims and attempting to clear the backlog. The ones that don’t qualify get rightly returned.

How many and where to ?

Labour claimed to have detained or deported 30000 ILLEGAL since taking power.

What they eliminated was that during the same period 23000 ILLEGAL's entered the country.

Politics eh !!

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Don't be such a fucking presumptious ignoramus.

I couldn't give three fucks about colour, religion or any other semantics.

ILLEGAL immigrants are here ILLEGALLY....what bit of ILLEGAL don't you understand ??

You haven't answered my question....how many ILLEGAL immigrants are you housing and providing keep for ??

I've bought an asylum seeker, now an approved refugee a phone and given them some cash. They obtained a tourist visa and then claimed asylum when they got here. That's an immigration offence. But approval of asylum claims acts as a complete defence for immigration offences.

Does this count?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I've bought an asylum seeker, now an approved refugee a phone and given them some cash. They obtained a tourist visa and then claimed asylum when they got here. That's an immigration offence which refugee approval became a complete defence for.

Does this count?

Is a stupid question anyway. It’s like asking him how many he’s turned round at Dover.

 

[BigJoe#1]

This recent footage of homes being raided and lots being put on aircraft and being taken back to wherever they came from. That's a good thing isn't it?

Yes it is but I cannot help but think it is an action being taken by Labour to visually display to Britain what they are actually doing as at the moment their optics on taxation, employment and the economy are not looking so good.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

I've bought an asylum seeker, now an approved refugee a phone and given them some cash. They obtained a tourist visa and then claimed asylum when they got here. That's an immigration offence. But approval of asylum claims acts as a complete defence for immigration offences.

Does this count?

Why don't you answer my question ??

There's only one !!

 

[mackenzie]

Yes it is but I cannot help but think it is an action being taken by Labour to visually display to Britain what they are actually doing as at the moment their optics on taxation, employment and the economy are not looking so good.

I got that answer off someone else today too, but then asked them 'if it's that easy to display then why didn't the Tories show their efforts too?'

Just to add....I'm not exactly happy with the labour lot at the moment (for the things you cite) but I'm happy to take absolutely anything positive at this rime