The Labour Government

BobKowalski said:
Singapore is a mixed market economy and highly regulated in various sectors like finance. It has a strong State capitalism model with the Govt controlling shares in many government-linked companies and directs investment through sovereign wealth funds. The State has also invested heavily in infrastructure.

So, you want the State to be ‘reduced’ and also want to model ourselves on a country with an aggressive State capitalism sector and strong regulation?
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I'd rather it was like there, here. Only with good pubs. BTW, I've worked there quite a bit - though not as a resident - and have friends and colleagues there. Have you?
 
Chippy_boy said:
Agree particularly about the enjoy discussing bit. I like the banter and "robust" debate.

I don't do social media apart from BM really, and one of the things I actually like about it is that Ric allows a good deal of abuse! Sure I get called a **** from time to time and probably get a bit shirty about it at the time, but really I don't mind. I have my views and like to express them and when people call me a tosser then fair enough.

I also bear no animosity to any posters on here. It's all a bit of fun. Some of you lot behave like right dickheads on here I think, but at the end of the day there's no-one I wouldn't enjoy a pint with. We are all Blues at the end of the day.
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You're paying Lord Snooty. I can't afford Châteauneuf-du-Pape.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I'd rather it was like there, here. Only with good pubs. BTW, I've worked there quite a bit - though not as a resident - and have friends and colleagues there. Have you?
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Hot as a badgers arse and a bit on the dear side are my lasting impressions of the place. When it comes to becoming the Singapore of Europe I think the Swiss have a head start on us.

It’s a very nice place though.
 
metalblue said:
Hot as a badgers arse and a bit on the dear side are my lasting impressions of the place. When it comes to becoming the Singapore of Europe I think the Swiss have a head start on us.

It’s a very nice place though.
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Switzerland is indeed fabulous. But it's outrageously expensive, which is OK if you earn outrageous amounts of money, which as a visitor, or to retire there, I don't.

I was in the Nestle HQ in Vevey a few years back and lunch in the canteen was subsidized, so only costing 20 Euros per day! I was used to paying more like 2 quid in the subsidized canteen at my previous employer in the UK.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Voting in Reform is voting in Farage, the guy that bought us Brexit through lies and is the reason for a lot with what you are angry about - especially the increase in migration.
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The increase in immigration is to do with our government of the day accepting people, fuck all to do with Brexit.
 
metalblue said:
He’s clearly a WUM and just looking to start an argument. This whole topic has been vigorously discussed the last few days, it dies down, and then he pops up trying to reignite it.
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Or maybe I realise that being PM is a impossible position and I feel Labour are actually doing far more than the previous government to please all sides and do better for the country.
 
BTW, rumours abound that the miserable cunts will go after the pension triple lock next. They better fucking not, just as I've retired.

The UK spends 5% of GDP on the state pension. vs :

OECD average 7.7%
EU average (2022) 12.2%
Italy 16%
France 14.7%
Greece 14–16%
Germany 11%

But no, 5% is too much. CUNTS. We have just about the most ungenerous state pension in the developed world and they want to cripple it further. The US - bastion of social welfare as you know - even THEY have a more generous state pension than us. Even they put 7% in (of a much greater GDP), resulting in state pension about double what we get.

I think I need to say CUNTS again.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Or maybe I realise that being PM is a impossible position and I feel Labour are actually doing far more than the previous government to please all sides and do better for the country.
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No one held a gun to his head, it’s the job he wanted.

He is doing ok to well in some areas and a not so well to a cluster fuck elsewhere. If I’m being generous he is a solid “C” right now, you’ll probably mark him as a “A+”. You’d mark him up for wanking off an Alsatian in Heaton Park(TM) @gordondaviesmoustache
 
Chippy_boy said:
BTW, rumours abound that the miserable cunts will go after the pension triple lock next. They better fucking not, just as I've retired.

The UK spends 5% of GDP on the state pension. vs :

OECD average 7.7%
EU average (2022) 12.2%
Italy 16%
France 14.7%
Greece 14–16%
Germany 11%

But no, 5% is too much. CUNTS. We have just about the most ungenerous state pension in the developed world and they want to cripple it further. The US - bastion of social welfare as you know - even THEY have a more generous state pension than us. Even they put 7% in (of a much greater GDP), resulting in state pension about double what we get.

I think I need to say CUNTS again.
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Fuck the pensioners and the pensioners will fuck him.

He will u turn in a week if he ever says he is going to do it.
 
Chippy_boy said:
BTW, rumours abound that the miserable cunts will go after the pension triple lock next. They better fucking not, just as I've retired.

The UK spends 5% of GDP on the state pension. vs :

OECD average 7.7%
EU average (2022) 12.2%
Italy 16%
France 14.7%
Greece 14–16%
Germany 11%

But no, 5% is too much. CUNTS. We have just about the most ungenerous state pension in the developed world and they want to cripple it further. The US - bastion of social welfare as you know - even THEY have a more generous state pension than us. Even they put 7% in (of a much greater GDP), resulting in state pension about double what we get.

I think I need to say CUNTS again.
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Ours is so low because we don’t want to pay into it. I lived in Germany for a few years and they pay a huge rate, something like 10% into national pension and more into health care. They also pay into a loss of work fund as well, something like 2% which enables them to get free equivalent full pay for up to 12 months, I think.

Even though it’s unsustainable, didn’t Labour guarantee the triple?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Ours is so low because we don’t want to pay into it. I lived in Germany for a few years and they pay a huge rate, something like 10% into national pension and more into health care. They also pay into a loss of work fund as well, something like 2% which enables them to get free equivalent full pay for up to 12 months, I think.

Even though it’s unsustainable, didn’t Labour guarantee the triple?
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Tax is tax, the real question is what do others pay in total and what do they receive in return.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Ours is so low because we don’t want to pay into it. I lived in Germany for a few years and they pay a huge rate, something like 10% into national pension and more into health care. They also pay into a loss of work fund as well, something like 2% which enables them to get free equivalent full pay for up to 12 months, I think.

Even though it’s unsustainable, didn’t Labour guarantee the triple?
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Just today they've had a go at the Tories for only saying they "support" the triple lock and that it's "Tory policy" to keep it. Doesn't look like a party preparing to get rid of it.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Even though it’s unsustainable, didn’t Labour guarantee the triple?
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I'm not sure. And when we spent £303bn on welfare last year (rising this year), going after £5bn of pensions spend - i.e less than 2% of it - would seem very much like focussing on the wrong thing, wouldn't it?
 
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