The Labour Government

[TinFoilHat]

"The problem with Thatcherism is that you eventually run out of selling other people's assets."

 

[BobKowalski]

His sales pitch for that particularly balanced and truthful poster was highly amusing.

And correct. I note that no one refuted my observation. As a reminder, the practice of whataboutery involves the use of counter accusations against initial accusations.

If the minister in question refused to resign and the defence for this refusal was ‘what about Tory ministers who didn’t resign’ that indeed would be whataboutery, but as she did resign and the poster acknowledged she was right to resign then the charge of whataboutery is a false one.

 

[stonerblue]

Wow ,
I have seen it all now on here..
@BobKowalski popping in to give us a lecture on hypocrisy.

Is that the ultimate hypocrisy ? Irony ?

Poacher turned fucking gamekeeper , that's for sure lol

'Seen it all' eh?
It's a forum, what do u expect.
Still stalking i see.

 

[hilts]

And correct. I note that no one refuted my observation. As a reminder, the practice of whataboutery involves the use of counter accusations against initial accusations.

If the minister in question refused to resign and the defence for this refusal was ‘what about Tory ministers who didn’t resign’ that indeed would be whataboutery, but as she did resign and the poster acknowledged she was right to resign then the charge of whataboutery is a false one.

It's very easy to comment on the situation without bringing the Tories up at all or one of their supporters. There always is a but or after comment like someone doesn't quite have the moral fortitude to fully commit to just saying something completely on topic without a yeah but bollocks.

Imagine if we all went into the reform thread on a regular basis(God forbid) and replied with a counter tweet to the forum loons constant obsession. But here's a tweet from a daft Labour bloke or a daft green. Imagine every post was replied with yeah but other posters.

I said after the election posters would just completely flip the way they post to support their side. The Tories and their supporters at the moment are of no relevance. I personally don't care what they or their posters said in the past. The nation spoke and they got hammered.

Anyhow carry on with the pedantry you know what he was doing and so does everyone else.

 

[hilts]

It's a mess mate.......I hate foliticians.

That's a hairy thought.

 

[hcblue95]

I don't make them, it's an OBR graph so it was a decent source. The debate was the notion that are all our ills are due to the last 14 years, my point is that is not the case , go back to 1997 for the start of it. There was no invitation to start going on about anything before that . What can I do ?

Sorry I didn't realize I needed to be invited to comment on your graph on this public forum.

 

[BobKowalski]

It's very easy to comment on the situation without bringing the Tories up at all or one of their supporters. There always is a but or after comment like someone doesn't quite have the moral fortitude to fully commit to just saying something completely on topic without a yeah but bollocks.

Imagine if we all went into the reform thread on a regular basis(God forbid) and replied with a counter tweet to the forum loons constant obsession. But here's a tweet from a daft Labour bloke or a daft green. Imagine every post was replied with yeah but other posters.

I said after the election posters would just completely flip the way they post to support their side. The Tories and their supporters at the moment are of no relevance. I personally don't care what they or their posters said in the past. The nation spoke and they got hammered.

Anyhow carry on with the pedantry you know what he was doing and so does everyone else.

A long way to say that I was right, but I’ll accept it.

 

[mancityvstoke]

That's a hairy thought.

Whenever I see your posts I see Steve McQueen throwing a baseball at his cell wall.
Great film. He died far too young

 

[metalblue]

A long way to say that I was right, but I’ll accept it.

That’s what you got out of @hilts post?

 

[Hertzblue]

'Seen it all' eh?
It's a forum, what do u expect.
Still stalking i see.

Stalking..
From what I see it seems your prodigious output rarely amounts to more than a paragraph, just a little dig here a little niggle there, but I'm the stalker.
Have a look at your own output I would suggest.

 

[west didsblue]

I really cannot face the next four years of Labour, let alone a further five years of Conservatives.

Why don’t you move to the USA then, where they have a president that seems to share many of your values.

 

[BobKowalski]

That’s what you got out of @hilts post?

Yes. The clincher was the last para and the accusation of ‘pedantry’ ie you are correct, but it doesn’t matter, which further translated means ‘fuck off you annoying git’

 

[blueinsa]

That’s what you got out of @hilts post?

Other than his arse handed to him, he thinks he got that out of it.

 

[hilts]

A long way to say that I was right, but I’ll accept it.

Sure sure

 

[hilts]

Whenever I see your posts I see Steve McQueen throwing a baseball at his cell wall.
Great film. He died far too young

You are now my favourite poster

Sorry about that:-)

 

[domalino]

Sadly, due to the quality of the opposition they might be the likely or only people that will be able to keep Labour and Conservatives out of office.

Which do we/you prefer? Labour? Conservatives? Reform?

The big two really do need a good kicking and this might be the best or only way to deliver it to them.... I really cannot face the next four years of Labour, let alone a further five years of Conservatives.

The Conservatives will spend £xbn undoing the mess that they will inherit from Labour... it really is frightening.

I'm 33 and been a Labour voter all my life. I am so completely and utterly disappointed in this Labour government, having been quite optimistic before the election. I looked past a lot of things I didn't love about them & Starmer because I desperately wanted the conservatives out of power after they'd taken the country backwards for my entire adult life, and because I thought they needed to make themselves a party a lot of ex-conservatives could vote for in order to get elected and change things.

I wonder how many people in my age demographic are feeling similar, and how many of us will vote for Labour because it's better than the alternative, and how many will simply disengage and not vote at all or be seduced by polulist reform as an anti-establishment party.

It is still early days in the term, and they've got loads of time and opportunities to win my enthusiasm back, but it's not looking good, and I'm expecting rock bottom turnout at the next GE and a minority government.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I really cannot face the next four years of Labour, let alone a further five years of Conservatives.

Yes, we all know you are absolutely desperate for Reform and Farage, you've made your agenda quite clear on a daily basis now.

 

[BlueHammer85]

and opportunities to win my enthusiasm back

How ? we are being bombarded by doom and gloom daily, looks at BigJoe and Chippy daily attacks against Labour constantly - Going mad and starting a thread about the Homelessness minister (fair enough) but not a squeak about the Renters Rights Bill that Labour have bought in that will save millions from eviction and costs etc - that's just one example.

Its so easy to constantly berate and be negative, social media has gone into overdrive since Labour have come in whipping people up to be angry, it won't slow down (with any party) and any sign of good news will be squashed and buried straight away.

 

[blueinsa]

How ? we are being bombarded by doom and gloom daily, looks at BigJoe and Chippy daily attacks against Labour constantly - Going mad and starting a thread about the Homelessness minister (fair enough) but not a squeak about the Renters Rights Bill that Labour have bought in that will save millions from eviction and costs etc - that's just one example.

Its so easy to constantly berate and be negative, social media has gone into overdrive since Labour have come in whipping people up to be angry, it won't slow down (with any party) and any sign of good news will be squashed and buried straight away.

Yep, Chippy and Joe will be the downfall of Labour no doubt pmsl

 

[hilts]

That’s what you got out of @hilts post?

That will be the moral fortitude part. After 14 years of high horsing they didn't half fall off quick and look comfortable rolling in the shit.

Anyhow the best about Hans post was how he started with........ well.she was unlikely to have known much about it, then....

However as a counter balance what did you have to say about the countless abuses by the last govt? Like Johnson being sacked as foreign minister for incomptetence and refusing to leave his grace and favour home or the time he occupied the multi million pound property of the exiled tax dodger Lord Bamford for free or ...... well there were loads of abuses like Badenoch claiming for utility bills at her parents house you are welcome to remind us of those breeches that were barely reported.

I mean he's obviously a genius to remember exactly what you posted or didn't especially the barely reported one that you might not even have been aware of.

I mean it obviously wasn't just a well yeah but erm some tories and their supporters you know..........

Anyhow everyone is welcome Bob was rather impressed with Hans counter balance post

:-)