The Labour Government

We certainly need a radical change of direction - work has to be rewarded, aspiration and effort encouraged - but the sheer number of people profiting from the status quo in and around the political system present huge inertia.

Too many non-producers being rewarded for failure, too many people being paid to do nothing. Meanwhile wealth creators and people who have aspired to improve their lot are the repeated target of ever higher taxes.

It will take a full blown fiscal crisis for it to change but it will happen eventually.
I only hope you are right,the sooner the better.
 
Its a regression to a lite version of Victorian times.
You can see in the subsequent replies that people are up for “Viva la revolution”, but rather than comrades and we’re all in it together, it’s wanting the regression to the workers knowing their place and to be controlled again.

How do you rebuild a society that cares for each other when unfettered and increasingly deregulated capitalism has destroyed people looking out for each other?

The profit margins have been squeezed as much as they can go, so now it’s got to be treating the workers worse that is the next way to make sure the shareholders get their dividends.

Rather than workhouses, we need cooperatives again where people work for each other and achieve a common goal. I can’t see that happening any time soon.
 
We certainly need a radical change of direction - work has to be rewarded, aspiration and effort encouraged - but the sheer number of people profiting from the status quo in and around the political system present huge inertia.

Too many non-producers being rewarded for failure, too many people being paid to do nothing. Meanwhile wealth creators and people who have aspired to improve their lot are the repeated target of ever higher taxes.

It will take a full blown fiscal crisis for it to change but it will happen eventually.
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You gotta be dead inside not to feel for that top 1%, all that effort, 50 hour days, 10 days a week and nothing to show for it.

Personally I salute their sacrifice.

Finally, someone who fully understands and recognises the meritorious nature of extreme wealth.
 
You gotta be dead inside not to feel for that top 1%, all that effort, 50 hour days, 10 days a week and nothing to show for it.

Personally I salute their sacrifice.
I thought it says everything. A friend of mine was saying his pension value has gone up £300k in the last year. He did absolutely nothing to gain that (apart from having a good IFA). At least he does drawdown and pays quite a bit of tax and injects his cash into the economy, unlike lots of others who don't draw down despite havng benefitted from the tax relief.
 
I thought it says everything. A friend of mine was saying his pension value has gone up £300k in the last year. He did absolutely nothing to gain that (apart from having a good IFA). At least he does drawdown and pays quite a bit of tax and injects his cash into the economy, unlike lots of others who don't draw down despite havng benefitted from the tax relief.
Saving it for when they're in a care home and saving the taxpayer by spending all their savings and pension on their own care.
 
I thought it says everything. A friend of mine was saying his pension value has gone up £300k in the last year. He did absolutely nothing to gain that (apart from having a good IFA). At least he does drawdown and pays quite a bit of tax and injects his cash into the economy, unlike lots of others who don't draw down despite havng benefitted from the tax relief.
I never really considered in my I'm alright Jack days when I thought those on the dole taking £50 for doing nothing(showing my age) were bad but the the mega wealthy who were earning thousands, tens of thousands each day for also doing fuck all never got much of a mention.
We have a somewhat illogical view of deserved in this country and others in fairness.
 
So 11 million people with better rights than yesterday. Will they vote Labour?


No-one really affected by the prisoner gone awol - maybe worry for the women he assaulted - but it's headline news. This? It's all over the Mail, Express and Telegraph. Not.
 
I never really considered in my I'm alright Jack days when I thought those on the dole taking £50 for doing nothing(showing my age) were bad but the the mega wealthy who were earning thousands, tens of thousands each day for also doing fuck all never got much of a mention.
We have a somewhat illogical view of deserved in this country and others in fairness.
I agree and am much the same. I'm sure BKB will be along soon to defend the top decile.
 
You gotta be dead inside not to feel for that top 1%, all that effort, 50 hour days, 10 days a week and nothing to show for it.

Personally I salute their sacrifice.
To be fair some of that top 1% will be doctors and consultants. A senior consultant would have a final salary income of around 100k per year, that equates to an equivalent defined contribution pension pot of at least £2m.
 
You can see in the subsequent replies that people are up for “Viva la revolution”, but rather than comrades and we’re all in it together, it’s wanting the regression to the workers knowing their place and to be controlled again.

How do you rebuild a society that cares for each other when unfettered and increasingly deregulated capitalism has destroyed people looking out for each other?

The profit margins have been squeezed as much as they can go, so now it’s got to be treating the workers worse that is the next way to make sure the shareholders get their dividends.

Rather than workhouses, we need cooperatives again where people work for each other and achieve a common goal. I can’t see that happening any time soon.
The subsequent replies are mainly by wankers though so I wouldn’t pay it much heed.
 
So 11 million people with better rights than yesterday. Will they vote Labour?


No-one really affected by the prisoner gone awol - maybe worry for the women he assaulted - but it's headline news. This? It's all over the Mail, Express and Telegraph. Not.
It’s a good bill if you are a renter. I’m guessing landlords will be selling first opportunity.
 
How have the Labour Party impacted your life’s for the better in the 14 months they have been in charge, I will go first and say in no way has my life improved its drastically got a lot worse.
 
How have the Labour Party impacted your life’s for the better in the 14 months they have been in charge, I will go first and say in no way has my life improved its drastically got a lot worse.
Fuck all has changed really for me. (once the WFA was reinstated)

However quality street tins have halved in my lifetime ...no matter who's been in charge. The cunts.
 

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