metalblue
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That does seem weird. Where did you see that?
The Labour Government
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That does seem weird. Where did you see that?
Nowt to do with Trump. This is English racists with little or no belief in the message of Christianity.
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We are stopping having kids.
blueparrot
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Farmers Guardian two weeks ago:
In other, more sombre news, milk price cuts continue as First Milk, Freshways, Muller and Arla announce further reductions. Arla has confirmed its milk price will drop by 2.63ppl from November 1, while farmers supplying Muller who meet the conditions for Muller Advantage will receive a milk price of 40ppl from December 1, a reduction of 1.5ppl. Freshways announced a December cut of 2ppl, and First Milk confirmed its milk price for a standard manufacturing litre will reduce from December 1 by 6ppl.
meltonblue
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The last polls I saw, although pretty level, showed the majority still thought that people seeking asylum via small boats should still have their claims processed.
I was alerted to this by the excellent BBC radio programme More or Less a couple of weeks ago, which had a piece suggesting that with a wide definition of "benefits" ("free" stuff - NHS Orange Juice! - child benefit, pensions) most UK citizens get more in benefits than they pay in taxes. (Only people on well higher than average income are net contributors to the system.)
This below from 2019, just when Brexit meant we would lose a lot of EU migrants. Feel free to offer alternative stats (or even alternative facts).
"Migrants from the EU contribute £2,300 more to the exchequer each year in net terms than the average adult, the analysis for the government has found. And, over their lifetimes, they pay in £78,000 more than they take out in public services and benefits - while the average UK citizen’s net lifetime contribution is zero."
www.independent.co.uk
This below from 2019, just when Brexit meant we would lose a lot of EU migrants. Feel free to offer alternative stats (or even alternative facts).
"Migrants from the EU contribute £2,300 more to the exchequer each year in net terms than the average adult, the analysis for the government has found. And, over their lifetimes, they pay in £78,000 more than they take out in public services and benefits - while the average UK citizen’s net lifetime contribution is zero."
EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen, study reveals
'If the UK’s new relationship with Europe involves reduced migration, this analysis suggests the tax burden on others will have to rise'
www.independent.co.uk
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Pingu the Penguin
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Interesting post. As legal migrants I'd expect the vast majority come to the UK to work, usually in higher earning brackets due to the immigration rules. They will probably also be fairly young, and childless. This is likely to impact in terms of their use of public services. The analysis also seems to assume they will stay in the UK forever. Unsure whether that's a reasonable assumption, although it may be.I was alerted to this by the excellent BBC radio programme More or Less a couple of weeks ago, which had a piece suggesting that with a wide definition of "benefits" ("free" stuff - NHS Orange Juice! - child benefit, pensions) most UK citizens get more in benefits than they pay in taxes. (Only people on well higher than average income are net contributors to the system.)
This below from 2019, just when Brexit meant we would lose a lot of EU migrants. Feel free to offer alternative stats (or even alternative facts).
"Migrants from the EU contribute £2,300 more to the exchequer each year in net terms than the average adult, the analysis for the government has found. And, over their lifetimes, they pay in £78,000 more than they take out in public services and benefits - while the average UK citizen’s net lifetime contribution is zero."
EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen, study reveals
'If the UK’s new relationship with Europe involves reduced migration, this analysis suggests the tax burden on others will have to rise'
BlueHammer85
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Correct.
hilts
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Thats just our own homeless we do that to, we aren't barbarians you know.
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hilts
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Kids like pizzas, complicated fades, lines in their haircuts and vapes though so you're cutting off a big income stream for the newly arrived 25 Yr old male asylum seeker. Thank god we have the nuclear scientists and surgeons from your bog standard immigration to help pay for them.
Now we just need to build a new city in the Peak District for housing and we are ready to go.
10% social housing of course and maybe a dual carriageway connecting it to the airport. Might need a few more people to build that though. Last time I was on a plane there seemed to be lots of that green stuff near the Cotswolds. They may be up for a new housing estate, some roads, maybe a school, a hospikal, prison, gp surgery, local football team owned by Neville, a tip, a Starbucks, 12 barbers, mini market, takeouts.
Lots more Labour needed though, ive noticed wales is just valleys. We just need to build a housing estate with 10% social housing of course and maybe a dual carriageway connecting it to the M4. Might need a few more people to build that though. Last time I was on a plane there seemed to be lots of that green stuff near the highlands. They may be up for a new housing estate, some roads, maybe a school, a hospikal, prison, gp surgery, local football team owned by the female Neville, a tip, a Starbucks, 12 barbers, mini market, takeouts of the fried variety.
This will obviously take decades and go over budget and shit i forgot care homes and nuclear power stations. Well thats only...... Doh! now everyone has been selfish and gotten old.
Okay last time I was on a plane I noticed some green stuff on the Yorkshire Moo..........
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hilts
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Based on?
I'm With Stupid
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If I work for a company, and they pay me and everyone else a crap salary, and because of that, they make a huge profit and pay a shitload of tax, what counts as 'my contribution' to the treasury? Just my income tax minus the services I use, or my income tax plus the corporate tax I help generate? See, trying to take an individual and determine whether they are a 'net benefit' or a 'net loss' to the treasury doesn't really work. If you're doing a job, you're contributing. Even plenty of people not doing a job (e.g. carers, parents) are contributing.I was alerted to this by the excellent BBC radio programme More or Less a couple of weeks ago, which had a piece suggesting that with a wide definition of "benefits" ("free" stuff - NHS Orange Juice! - child benefit, pensions) most UK citizens get more in benefits than they pay in taxes. (Only people on well higher than average income are net contributors to the system.)
This below from 2019, just when Brexit meant we would lose a lot of EU migrants. Feel free to offer alternative stats (or even alternative facts).
"Migrants from the EU contribute £2,300 more to the exchequer each year in net terms than the average adult, the analysis for the government has found. And, over their lifetimes, they pay in £78,000 more than they take out in public services and benefits - while the average UK citizen’s net lifetime contribution is zero."
EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen, study reveals
'If the UK’s new relationship with Europe involves reduced migration, this analysis suggests the tax burden on others will have to rise'
I think carers, in particular, deserve a bloody medal. And a pay rise!
In built coping mechanisms I think.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Possibly Lifting the two child tax credit cap ?
Free nursery places ?
Breakfast clubs?
Changes to requirements for school uniform ?
It is always a political choice ..... but you seem to think Labour haven't done anything.
Low wages
UC ensuring work simply doesn’t pay for many so huge welfare bills
Cost of living crises
Inflation
Scandalous energy bills
We can play the political choice game all day long and it’s in every government, regardless of colour.
Labour are in charge now, nobody else.